Who has ordered, from where, what's your ETA, and any issues?
I ordered mine on the day of the announcement, direct from the South African distributor.
They can't seem to get any reliable information from Hasselblad HQ. The communication from HQ seems really bad. Actually, it seems ridiculously terrible.
Today I was told, delivery is expected end of July.
I was also told that they might have two versions, a WiFi and non-WiFi version of the body.
Mine will come end of July. I am 1:st in the queue here in Sweden 8)
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 08, 2019, 08:07:38 PM
I was also told that they might have two versions, a WiFi and non-WiFi version of the body.
I dont think so!
Never mind X1D II. I want my battery charger and remote release cable!
I'm also at the head of my UK dealer's queue and they've just spoken with Hasselblad who've confirmed that the first shipment is towards the end of this month and that my dealer will receive an allocation. ;D
Ordered from B&H rather from Hasselblad directly thanks for some trade-in credit I've had for nearly a year. I must've ordered it a little under a week from announcement so we'll see when it comes.
I don't know how they are going to manage "allocations" to each country. My dealer informed me a day before the announcement that he signed an NDA and can't give me much more information that was already speculation, at that time I told him I'm taking the latest XCD body he must just order it already I don't care... he basically ordered mine on the minute of announcement. Since the my dealer has given me an update every couple of days... that said in July at first, then moved to end of July, now to last week or July....
So I don't know how they are going to manage allocations but I guess they will give each dealer at least a small allocation....
They probably had to take a week or two to collect first orders and then make allocation on the global order book.
Hi,
i have one on order at my dealer here in Germany. My dealer said deliveries might be delayed and was skeptical he'll get a camera
by end of July. Gives me some time to clean the Leica M stuff and put it up for sale ;)
Regards,
Ralf
In the Hasselblad-Store (depending on the region), the camera and the zoom are already out-of-stock
Had the change to play the new X1D II and the 35-75mm, nice combo and order both (X1D II end of July and 35-75mm end of October). The combination of X1D II with Phocus II on the iPad Pro is great, very fast...
Quote from: Ralf Mueller on July 09, 2019, 06:44:26 PM
Hi,
i have one on order at my dealer here in Germany. My dealer said deliveries might be delayed and was skeptical he'll get a camera
by end of July. Gives me some time to clean the Leica M stuff and put it up for sale ;)
Regards,
Ralf
I'm also really skeptical that my camera will arrive by the end of this month... if they provided some eta/order confirmations etc already in June then I would have been more of a believer... but the lack of communication and commitment makes me think we will probably only get the camera in Aug.
Quote from: hugenoot on July 10, 2019, 02:06:05 AM
Had the change to play the new X1D II and the 35-75mm, nice combo and order both (X1D II end of July and 35-75mm end of October). The combination of X1D II with Phocus II on the iPad Pro is great, very fast...
Ditto with the 35-75mm to complement the 21mm, which I expect to get most use out of, as my travel combo for the X1D II. 8)
Quote from: Ralf Mueller on July 09, 2019, 06:44:26 PM
Hi,
i have one on order at my dealer here in Germany. My dealer said deliveries might be delayed and was skeptical he'll get a camera
by end of July. Gives me some time to clean the Leica M stuff and put it up for sale ;)
Regards,
Ralf
Maybe you're right, but yesterday Hasselblad NL put 8 X1D II bodies on the table include all the XCD lenses include a demo of the 35-75mm. And they told me end of July X1D II delivery...
I also have ordered the X1D II from BH on the day it was announced. I really hope I can get it in my hands by the end of July. Going to London and Paris, can't wait to put it to good use.
Quote from: matthewcng on July 11, 2019, 02:59:45 PM
I also have ordered the X1D II from BH on the day it was announced. I really hope I can get it in my hands by the end of July. Going to London and Paris, can't wait to put it to good use.
Awesome... and glass? What you doing about lenses?
As they initial hype of the zoom is fading, I might cancel my pre-order for the zoom and just get the 80mm, I already have the 45/65/90 and 135+tc
I am first in line with my dealer, and while they originally said something about mid-July I am not sure that will in fact happen :) I am hopeful for early September at least, because after that my fall Workshop season starts and I would definitely like to have the camera for that - especially since I already put one of my two X1D bodies up for sale, and would hate to hit the road without a backup.
Best regards,
Vieri
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 11, 2019, 04:23:23 PM
Quote from: matthewcng on July 11, 2019, 02:59:45 PM
I also have ordered the X1D II from BH on the day it was announced. I really hope I can get it in my hands by the end of July. Going to London and Paris, can't wait to put it to good use.
Awesome... and glass? What you doing about lenses?
As they initial hype of the zoom is fading, I might cancel my pre-order for the zoom and just get the 80mm, I already have the 45/65/90 and 135+tc
I ordered the 30mm on the day as well. Got the 30mm in hand, just sitting pretty in my camera bag. Can't wait for the X1D II, so I can actually use the 30mm. Haha.
I find myself in a familiar situation when I ordered the M9. Got the lens first and waited for a body.
Quote from: Vieri on July 11, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
I am first in line with my dealer, and while they originally said something about mid-July I am not sure that will in fact happen :) I am hopeful for early September at least, because after that my fall Workshop season starts and I would definitely like to have the camera for that - especially since I already put one of my two X1D bodies up for sale, and would hate to hit the road without a backup.
Best regards,
Vieri
I'm obviously just speculating at this point, but I think it might not be hardware holding back shipments. They obviously always had a good idea on how long it takes to manufacture a camera, etc. I think any delays now will be due to things like final firmware, focus 2, lens firmware upgrades for new body, and certifications life WIFI and Bluetooth and standards they need to comply with for each region they are shipping too. I'm hoping for a early to mid August as worst case scenario. They always advertised July as available date and I don't think people would give them too much heat if launched in early August. But pushing it out to September would be embarrassing in my opinion
I just got off the phone to my Australian dealer (I was ordering the zoom) and apparently the X1D II shipment to APAC is already delayed, purportedly due to some regulatory issue.
Although I'm not pulling the trigger on the new body yet, I'm fervently hoping the zoom arrives before I head to Europe in December... I have been fantasizing about how good the X1D and zoom are going to be with a small tripod for my two week ski adventure in the Sella Ronda!
Now I just need to work out a tripod collar that will work with the zoom...
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 12, 2019, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: Vieri on July 11, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
I am first in line with my dealer, and while they originally said something about mid-July I am not sure that will in fact happen :) I am hopeful for early September at least, because after that my fall Workshop season starts and I would definitely like to have the camera for that - especially since I already put one of my two X1D bodies up for sale, and would hate to hit the road without a backup.
Best regards,
Vieri
I'm obviously just speculating at this point, but I think it might not be hardware holding back shipments. They obviously always had a good idea on how long it takes to manufacture a camera, etc. I think any delays now will be due to things like final firmware, focus 2, lens firmware upgrades for new body, and certifications life WIFI and Bluetooth and standards they need to comply with for each region they are shipping too. I'm hoping for a early to mid August as worst case scenario. They always advertised July as available date and I don't think people would give them too much heat if launched in early August. But pushing it out to September would be embarrassing in my opinion
Interestingly, the final version of X1DII does not have Bluetooth.
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 12, 2019, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: Vieri on July 11, 2019, 07:33:42 PM
I am first in line with my dealer, and while they originally said something about mid-July I am not sure that will in fact happen :) I am hopeful for early September at least, because after that my fall Workshop season starts and I would definitely like to have the camera for that - especially since I already put one of my two X1D bodies up for sale, and would hate to hit the road without a backup.
Best regards,
Vieri
I'm obviously just speculating at this point, but I think it might not be hardware holding back shipments. They obviously always had a good idea on how long it takes to manufacture a camera, etc. I think any delays now will be due to things like final firmware, focus 2, lens firmware upgrades for new body, and certifications life WIFI and Bluetooth and standards they need to comply with for each region they are shipping too. I'm hoping for a early to mid August as worst case scenario. They always advertised July as available date and I don't think people would give them too much heat if launched in early August. But pushing it out to September would be embarrassing in my opinion
It is true that they (should) have a pretty good idea about manufacturing times, but that's also true for the time required to get certifications - it's not their first dance, and they have people taking care of this that does this for a living. What they don't know in advance, no matter how much they try to foresee everything, is unexpected problems / delays. Obviously, these can involve either manufacturing or bureaucracy, but I am more inclined to think that (possible) delays for the X1D could be caused - in order - by software delays, then third-party hardware availability issues over which Hasselblad has no direct control, then Hasselblad own manufacturing and last bureaucracy.
I.e., they got the Bluetooth certification way before the camera was ready to ship, but then Bluetooth disappeared from the camera (at least for now). That tells me that either they took off what hardware allowed to have Bluetooth, or Bluetooth is for now disabled in Firmware (like video, which H states will come at a later date). Either way, this is an example of what could cause a (perhaps small) delay in delivery: they had Bluetooth, now they don't, so they needed to update the manual, FW, user interface, perhaps packaging if they already had it ready with the BT logo, literature (online and otherwise), perhaps ads, etc. Even if each of these taken singularly will probably just take a few minutes, all of them together can easily cause a week or more delay. And this is just Bluetooth, something we know for certain they got certification for (which it's my understanding you need showing a working prototype to get) and then took off the camera. Assuming that I am right in considering this a potential cause for delay, who knows if BT is the only one of such issues.
I.e. 2, maybe they are trying to get some more features squeezed in, in time for release: video we know for sure it's one, maybe they saw the outcry on forum and are trying to get Live View histogram in, you name it.
...and so on...
Best regards,
Vieri
When HB announced the X1DII, they all ready had it in stock!!
So now I think they tweek the firmware before shipping.
Quote from: Mr-Anderson on July 12, 2019, 08:22:45 PM
When HB announced the X1DII, they all ready had it in stock!!
I think that was first pre-production batch
Quote from: Mr-Anderson on July 12, 2019, 08:22:45 PM
So now I think they tweek the firmware before shipping.
That's for sure.
Quote from: alistairm on July 12, 2019, 01:00:08 PM
I just got off the phone to my Australian dealer (I was ordering the zoom) and apparently the X1D II shipment to APAC is already delayed, purportedly due to some regulatory issue.
Although I'm not pulling the trigger on the new body yet, I'm fervently hoping the zoom arrives before I head to Europe in December... I have been fantasizing about how good the X1D and zoom are going to be with a small tripod for my two week ski adventure in the Sella Ronda!
Now I just need to work out a tripod collar that will work with the zoom...
Actually, the 135mm is supplied with a collar. This collar, has its own separate packaging and box and part numbers etc, which may mean that it is also designed to work with other lenses like the zoom?
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 13, 2019, 07:25:16 AM
Quote from: alistairm on July 12, 2019, 01:00:08 PM
I just got off the phone to my Australian dealer (I was ordering the zoom) and apparently the X1D II shipment to APAC is already delayed, purportedly due to some regulatory issue.
Although I'm not pulling the trigger on the new body yet, I'm fervently hoping the zoom arrives before I head to Europe in December... I have been fantasizing about how good the X1D and zoom are going to be with a small tripod for my two week ski adventure in the Sella Ronda!
Now I just need to work out a tripod collar that will work with the zoom...
Actually, the 135mm is supplied with a collar. This collar, has its own separate packaging and box and part numbers etc, which may mean that it is also designed to work with other lenses like the zoom?
It's the same collar that works with the XC>HC adaptor, which was nice. It'd be awesome if it also worked with the zoom.
I have a few aftermarket collars and I'll definitely try them when the zoom arrives.
Gordon
I did that mistake and did not order X Release Cord when it was announced.
Now, for 6 weeks I am trying to get it everywhere. What is the problem with the 80$ cable?
Hasselblad don't know how many bodies they sold? It takes probably few pennies to manufacture.
Sometimes it is really hard to understand this company.
We moved to a new light system, before we used continuous light so we did not care then.
But now we need a cord!
I do not have the exact reference with me but it's easy to purchase a compatible Canon cable release and they are well made.
Quote from: vsbhk on July 14, 2019, 04:08:39 AM
I do not have the exact reference with me but it's easy to purchase a compatible Canon cable release and they are well made.
Found the reference: Canon RS-60E3 with a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter. 25US$ total.
Quote from: vsbhk on July 14, 2019, 04:13:22 AM
Quote from: vsbhk on July 14, 2019, 04:08:39 AM
I do not have the exact reference with me but it's easy to purchase a compatible Canon cable release and they are well made.
Found the reference: Canon RS-60E3 with a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter. 25US$ total.
I have it! :)
But now I need an adapter, are there any 'flavors'? Just 2.5mm female to 3.5mm male? Mic/Srereo/headphones .. anything of that matters?
Just noticed that B&H updated its availability from mid July to Aug 1st.
:(
Quote from: matthewcng on July 16, 2019, 05:35:58 PM
Just noticed that B&H updated its availability from mid July to Aug 1st.
:(
Yesterday it just said "coming soon", so I'm not sure if this is progress. It still may be optimistic in that Samy's Camera is currently showing 8/19 for estimated ship date.
The question I still have is, has anyone received their pre-order yet? :)
My dealer has gone very quiet 🤫 this week. I don't think we will see shipments this month. I get the feeling not all things are on-track.
Certainly can't be difficult for Hasselblad to send out some updates.
And now, it's obviously not good news that the 60.1mp Sony a7R4 is being released because if I didn't already own an X1D and a bunch of XCD lenses I'd consider it a possible option/competitor
And now, it's obviously not good news that the 60.1mp Sony a7R4 is being released because if I didn't already own an X1D and a bunch of XCD lenses I'd consider it a possible option/competitor
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I dont see any problem with that. Two different system. But the quality of the picture from X1D
has no competions so far....
Quote from: Mr-Anderson on July 18, 2019, 05:18:42 AM
I dont see any problem with that. Two different system. But the quality of the picture from X1D
has no competions so far....
wait for the Sony aha 7RIV tests before having an opinion.
Quote from: sanglier on July 18, 2019, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: Mr-Anderson on July 18, 2019, 05:18:42 AM
I dont see any problem with that. Two different system. But the quality of the picture from X1D
has no competions so far....
wait for the Sony aha 7RIV tests before having an opinion.
Full sensor...medium sensor.....;-)
I have sent an email to B&H asking about the availability to see if pre-orders will be shipped out before Aug 1st. Unfortunately, they are expecting to receive the camera to their warehouse on July 31st.
2 more weeks to go!!!
Quote from: sanglier on July 18, 2019, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: Mr-Anderson on July 18, 2019, 05:18:42 AM
I dont see any problem with that. Two different system. But the quality of the picture from X1D
has no competions so far....
wait for the Sony aha 7RIV tests before having an opinion.
IMO, if someone preferred X1D to a7rIII before, then a7rIV does not change anything (what we know about a7rIV: apparently same DR as a7rIII, the resolution about same as X1D if cropping to 4:3).
I am not making any arguments for the a7R4 - except for the fact that, a certain part of a new market Hasselblad was attempting to address with the new pricing and features of the Mark II now has some new options with the new a7R4.... we all would like Hasselblad to make cameras just for us brand fans, but the reality is they need to be commercially competitive
About the new Sony, to add to what has been said already I think that if someone intended to choose (or already chose) the X1D I or II over a FF camera with 42-50 MP, they won't change their mind for a FF camera with 61 MP which, effectively, is a very little (to invisible) increase in resolution over the previously available FF alternatives in the 50 MP range.
More in general, I think that with the current offer of FF and MF mirrorless cameras the reasons to choose one over the other is not MP, unless you want to go for the Fuji 100MP which - at present - has a distinct resolution advantage over the rest. User experience, lens availability, user interface, different "drawing", feature set, etc are (finally) getting more important than resolution alone. Nikon Z, Canon R, Sony A7, Panasonic SR1 all offer ~50MP, and so does the X1D I & II and the GFX 50R/S, and 50MP (with the current image quality all these sensors offer) is more than enough for a very large percentage of users out there. The new Sony is simply a small, incremental resolution update over the previous model (Sony style, they seem to make a point to release more cameras than everyone in camera history!), and I doubt it would make a current MF user switch. I think it's a more appealing update for FF users that were still in the 24 MP range, but of course these are just my proverbial .02.
Best regards,
Vieri
It's not a small bump in resolution... it's 61 megapixels, more than the GFX50 and X1D. It's also US$3500, it has phase/contrast hybrid AF system. It can shoot landscape/Architecture at 240megapixels, it has lots of good glass available. Every argument here is made to support OUR community feelings and behavior which is loyal to Hasselblad.... my point remains that they were targeting a new market with the reduced price, and now that market has more options...
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 19, 2019, 03:27:56 AM
It's not a small bump in resolution... it's 61 megapixels, more than the GFX50 and X1D. It's also US$3500, it has phase/contrast hybrid AF system. It can shoot landscape/Architecture at 240megapixels, it has lots of good glass available. Every argument here is made to support OUR community feelings and behavior which is loyal to Hasselblad.... my point remains that they were targeting a new market with the reduced price, and now that market has more options...
...and my point is that that market
already had a lot of options in the same resolution range, very similar to this. I am not defending or supporting anything, why would I, I just don't think that the new Sony will make someone that was considering medium format change their mind if what was available already didn't do that already. By the way, 61 MP versus 50 MP is a truly minor bump in resolution, you should consider 8272 vs 9504 and 6200 vs 6336, is 14% on the long side, but just 2% on the short side, so if you crop the Sony file to 4:3, you'll end up with 2% more resolution. Hardly a game changer, if you ask me.
Best regards,
Vieri
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 19, 2019, 03:27:56 AM
It's not a small bump in resolution... it's 61 megapixels, more than the GFX50 and X1D. It's also US$3500, it has phase/contrast hybrid AF system. It can shoot landscape/Architecture at 240megapixels, it has lots of good glass available. Every argument here is made to support OUR community feelings and behavior which is loyal to Hasselblad.... my point remains that they were targeting a new market with the reduced price, and now that market has more options...
I assume someone picks MF format also because they prefer 4:3 format. As Vieri and I already wrote, the resolution of a7rIV is almost the same as X1D when cropped to 4:3. The AF system was already much better in a7RII/III than in X1D. The incremental AF improvement in a7rIV does not introduce a new aspect. And neither does IBIS or cost.
A7rIV's Pixel Shift requires shooting 963.2 MP uncompressed raw data to create a 240 Mp image in post.
It is likely that it will be not suitable for any landscape that has slight movements.
I find Pixel Shift interesting, but in practice too bothersome. Never used it on my a7rIII and rarely used it on my m43 cameras (Panasonic has a very good implementation). Judging by forum posts, it seems that Pixel Shift is not much used on a7rIII.
IMO, A7rIV will attract mainly people who skipped the upgrade from a7rII to a7rIII ... and those with GAS :-).
- Srdjan
My UK dealer chased Hasselblad up on their own initiative yesterday and are still being quoted end of July - fingers crossed. :)
As for the A7rIV, I watched the launch event and I came away thinking that the marketing boys and girls had been given too much slack. For example, that 15 stop DR quoted at the top of one of the early slides is, as later reported by DPR, only available via compressed RAWs or 8 MP downscaled images! Could the A7rIV do a lot of what I intend to do with the X1D II? Of course it could. It can no doubt do some stuff better and can also do stuff the X1D II isn't capable of but, for me, that's not the point. At the end of my all too brief test drive of the original X1D earlier this year I didn't want to give the camera back!!! 8)
My dealer has just confirmed to me that the X1DII has been delayed into September. Their excuse is they don't have shoulder straps for it... only demo cameras are being shipped out to dealers now.. but those dealers, are probably just going to give those camera to their first order customers to use until the retail units arrive....
My dealer received a X1DII demo camera yesterday. He offered me a X1D from his rental pool for free until my X1DII body arrives, this
is what I call a perfect customer/dealer relationship. I got the XCD 45 at the weekend and hopefully will receive the XCD 80 some time this week,
they seem to be rare as well.
Lets hope for the best, but for now I can start learning to operate the X1D and then once I receive my X1DII I will be the master of X ;D
Sorry, too hot here today. Cheers, Ralf
I sold my X1D last month in anticipation of receiving the X1D II this month... should have known better I guess ::)
Will have to make do with my other cameras.
Was at my dealer today to pick up the charging hub (very solid) and two 3400mAh batteries for the X1DII.
My dealer expects first shipments of X1DII cameras in September. No big deal for me as i got a X1D from his rental pool until my X1DII arrives.
My XCD 80mm will arrive next week.
Regards,
Ralf
Hello -
I bought a couple of weeks ago the charging hub on Hasselblad's website.
Not seeing anything happen, I decided to send an e-mail to Hasselblad (so NOT to my dealer).
I ask them the reason why I haven't yet received the charger and I also ask them when could I except to receive the "X1D mk II".
Well indeed, they told me not to expect anything before end of September! :o
Reason given —> "... uncontrollable reasons related to customs inspection and logistic"...
- Dimitri
Quote from: Ralf Mueller on July 25, 2019, 03:38:20 AM
Was at my dealer today to pick up the charging hub (very solid) and two 3400mAh batteries for the X1DII.
My dealer expects first shipments of X1DII cameras in September. No big deal for me as i got a X1D from his rental pool until my X1DII arrives.
My XCD 80mm will arrive next week.
Regards,
Ralf
Yeah no big deal to you until you have paid for your camera and bought 4 or 5 lenses and then have two lens failures etc... just because you are not personally affected does not make it acceptable for other customers to get bad service... it's not just about you it's about all of us
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 25, 2019, 08:29:56 AM
Quote from: Ralf Mueller on July 25, 2019, 03:38:20 AM
Was at my dealer today to pick up the charging hub (very solid) and two 3400mAh batteries for the X1DII.
My dealer expects first shipments of X1DII cameras in September. No big deal for me as i got a X1D from his rental pool until my X1DII arrives.
My XCD 80mm will arrive next week.
Regards,
Ralf
Yeah no big deal to you until you have paid for your camera and bought 4 or 5 lenses and then have two lens failures etc... just because you are not personally affected does not make it acceptable for other customers to get bad service... it's not just about you it's about all of us
How did you have two lens failures before you even got your camera?
I don't have lens failures, waiting for the X1DII body to arrive. I had enough lens failures with HC glass but that's another story.
Regards, Ralf.
Quote from: hcubell on July 25, 2019, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 25, 2019, 08:29:56 AM
Quote from: Ralf Mueller on July 25, 2019, 03:38:20 AM
Was at my dealer today to pick up the charging hub (very solid) and two 3400mAh batteries for the X1DII.
My dealer expects first shipments of X1DII cameras in September. No big deal for me as i got a X1D from his rental pool until my X1DII arrives.
My XCD 80mm will arrive next week.
Regards,
Ralf
Yeah no big deal to you until you have paid for your camera and bought 4 or 5 lenses and then have two lens failures etc... just because you are not personally affected does not make it acceptable for other customers to get bad service... it's not just about you it's about all of us
How did you have two lens failures before you even got your camera?
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I was just informed by B&H that the X1DII is now scheduled for delivery September 2. (Yes, 2019.)
According to the information I have, no dealer will have any units for shipping in August. Customers will get their units in September.
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 19, 2019, 03:27:56 AM
It's not a small bump in resolution... it's 61 megapixels, more than the GFX50 and X1D. It's also US$3500, it has phase/contrast hybrid AF system. It can shoot landscape/Architecture at 240megapixels, it has lots of good glass available. Every argument here is made to support OUR community feelings and behavior which is loyal to Hasselblad.... my point remains that they were targeting a new market with the reduced price, and now that market has more options...
The A7R4 can make latte's while I wait for the light and make me more attractive to pretty girls and it will still have horrid handling, dubious weather sealing and small mushy buttons. There isn't enough resolution in the world to make me consider one and I am getting great joy from dumping all my Sony gear at the moment.
The marketing is also suspect. The high res requires Sony software in post so you can't easily check the results in the field. The 15 stops of DR has more conditions than a home loan.
Sony will sell a boat load. Good for them. Personally I don't need hybrid AF. I don't shoot sports. I don't pretend I "need" it to shoot my kids or BiF or whatever. Great marketing. Little real world advantages and horrible usage.
More than happy with my S1R, X1D and Z7. The S1R also does 187MP files for landscape/architecture and does so in camera with the same support for Canon or Nikon TS lenses. However since I can print A1 from any of the above without a high res mode it's probably more useful to have the added DR and colour depth of the X1D.
Gordon
Quote from: Shuttermuse on July 30, 2019, 07:32:32 AM
According to the information I have, no dealer will have any units for shipping in August. Customers will get their units in September.
I guess that makes it closer to when we'd get the zoom lenses. Careful what you wish for.
My dealer said they were told by Hasselblad that shipping would be the beginning of September as there were some firmware setbacks and they wanted to deliver with no issues.....! Will see....!
Quote from: BillW on August 01, 2019, 12:15:01 AM
My dealer said they were told by Hasselblad that shipping would be the beginning of September as there were some firmware setbacks and they wanted to deliver with no issues.....! Will see....!
September is not bad at all for Hasselblad (if they deliver the promise)!
Although I do have a mk2 on order, I don't care how long it takes. I have two mk1's and I'm good to go. I'm much more invested in the zoom arriving in October as I have a couple of big trips in November and December and without the zoom I'll take my S1R instead. I'd rather take my X1D but I expect I'll be taking the S1R......
Gordon
My UK dealer has also now informed me that the camera has been delayed until September.
Delays happen and if suitably telegraphed are part of life's rich tapestry but that Hasselblad were still telling my dealer on July 18th that the camera would be available by the end of July is either disrespectful or incompetent.
In the X1D Group on Facebook someone (Don Trammell) reported taking delivery of his X1DII in Finland from Fimeko.
Don obviously is on his way to London to test the camera. So we could either go to Finland to see if there are any more cameras left. or go to London and convince Don to hand over his... ;)
Quote from: PhotoKratky on August 02, 2019, 09:24:39 PM
In the X1D Group on Facebook someone (Don Trammell) reported taking delivery of his X1DII in Finland from Fimeko.
Don obviously is on his way to London to test the camera. So we could either go to Finland to see if there are any more cameras left. or go to London and convince Don to hand over his... ;)
While Don denies it, it's a demo camera. There are many of those "in the wild". Even Steve Huff had one (https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2019/07/19/the-hasselblad-x1d2-review-small-medium-format-matures/). Vieri has one now(https://www.getdpi.com/forum/medium-format-systems-and-digital-backs/66600-hasselblad-x1d-ii-deliveries-delays.html#post795083) and is writing an article, comparing it to the original X1D. September will come soon enough for the rest of us.
Joe
Quote from: Bob Andersson on August 02, 2019, 08:58:00 PM
My UK dealer has also now informed me that the camera has been delayed until September.
Delays happen and if suitably telegraphed are part of life's rich tapestry but that Hasselblad were still telling my dealer on July 18th that the camera would be available by the end of July is either disrespectful or incompetent.
Be careful what you say here. The lynch mob of wannabes will put you on a stake an burn you.
Hasselblad has every right to lie, and be incompetent, if you don't like it you just buy a Fuji
Joke!
They've come back to me with a nice reply although I still don't know exactly what the issue is. Maybe someone has just realised that they've forgotten the camera has a bluetooth chip in it. ;)
This is a long term investment for me so it makes no sense to throw my toys out of the pram over what I am guessing will be a five or six week delay. And with a surname like mine how could I possibly consider cancelling? ;D
I ordered within 10 minutes of the announcement. THe camera was promised mid July. They then said early August. They now say "I will be getting an email soon". Meanwhile they charged my credit card in July, which I believe is a violation of law, and intend to notify the federal trade commission in the United States. This is an abhorrent way for any company to treat customers in any venue. The lack of any corporate response is totally reprehensible. They have not right to announce a camera, schedule its release and then not deliver. I cannot tell whether this is Swedish culture, which I do not expect, or simply the influence of the Chinese owner, who may care less about the customer.
Quote from: jcheld on August 07, 2019, 11:05:42 PM
I ordered within 10 minutes of the announcement. THe camera was promised mid July. They then said early August. They now say "I will be getting an email soon". Meanwhile they charged my credit card in July, which I believe is a violation of law, and intend to notify the federal trade commission in the United States. This is an abhorrent way for any company to treat customers in any venue. The lack of any corporate response is totally reprehensible. They have not right to announce a camera, schedule its release and then not deliver. I cannot tell whether this is Swedish culture, which I do not expect, or simply the influence of the Chinese owner, who may care less about the customer.
Just contact Hasselblad and you can get your money back.
Right now they are tweeking the software. No one will have a camera as X1D was from the beginning.
So be patience :)
Quote from: jcheld on August 07, 2019, 11:05:42 PM
I ordered within 10 minutes of the announcement. THe camera was promised mid July. They then said early August. They now say "I will be getting an email soon". Meanwhile they charged my credit card in July, which I believe is a violation of law, and intend to notify the federal trade commission in the United States. This is an abhorrent way for any company to treat customers in any venue. The lack of any corporate response is totally reprehensible. They have not right to announce a camera, schedule its release and then not deliver. I cannot tell whether this is Swedish culture, which I do not expect, or simply the influence of the Chinese owner, who may care less about the customer.
Have your credit card company challenge the charge and get it removed. And never try to buy a newly released camera.
They certainly have the right to delay delivery for whatever reason. Not the best customer focused approach, however, but far from unusual.
I agree challenging the credit card charge is appropriate assuming you have made a documented effort to get the charge removed by the company.
Quote from: MGrayson on August 07, 2019, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: jcheld on August 07, 2019, 11:05:42 PM
I ordered within 10 minutes of the announcement. THe camera was promised mid July. They then said early August. They now say "I will be getting an email soon". Meanwhile they charged my credit card in July, which I believe is a violation of law, and intend to notify the federal trade commission in the United States. This is an abhorrent way for any company to treat customers in any venue. The lack of any corporate response is totally reprehensible. They have not right to announce a camera, schedule its release and then not deliver. I cannot tell whether this is Swedish culture, which I do not expect, or simply the influence of the Chinese owner, who may care less about the customer.
Have your credit card company challenge the charge and get it removed. And never try to buy a newly released camera.
I often try to buy a newly released cameras :-). My dealer (in California) does not charge me until he ships the camera to me.
Quote from: SrMi on August 08, 2019, 05:59:06 AM
Quote from: MGrayson on August 07, 2019, 11:19:35 PM
Quote from: jcheld on August 07, 2019, 11:05:42 PM
I ordered within 10 minutes of the announcement. THe camera was promised mid July. They then said early August. They now say "I will be getting an email soon". Meanwhile they charged my credit card in July, which I believe is a violation of law, and intend to notify the federal trade commission in the United States. This is an abhorrent way for any company to treat customers in any venue. The lack of any corporate response is totally reprehensible. They have not right to announce a camera, schedule its release and then not deliver. I cannot tell whether this is Swedish culture, which I do not expect, or simply the influence of the Chinese owner, who may care less about the customer.
Have your credit card company challenge the charge and get it removed. And never try to buy a newly released camera.
I often try to buy a newly released cameras :-). My dealer (in California) does not charge me until he ships the camera to me.
As do I. I just don't expect white glove treatment when I do. My advice was based on the poster's displeasure not only with the early charge, but all delays and lack of communication. I am not criticizing! These are expensive items, and one has a right to expect, or at least prefer, treatment accordingly. But the key to happiness is setting proper expectations, and with new cameras, that setting is fairly low.
I remember seeing an advertisement in National Geographic for the Hasselblad 500c after the moon landing. I was only 10, and my father had bought me my first camera - a Canonet. That Hasselblad struck me as the coolest thing. The pinnacle of great design.
I worked my way through a number of Nikons over the years, til I bought a 500cx and three lenses = a 50 FLE, 80 and 150 - when I lived in Hong Kong. I lugged that kit through Vietnam, Nepal and other parts of South-East Asia. It gave me a lot of pleasure. Then digital came along, and things got confusing. I sold my Hasselblad kit and bought into Leica, and was very happy.
When the X1D was released, it scratched that old itch. Lunar landings, and a boy with dreams and adventures, fueled by the magic of National Geographic. I ordered one on release. Then the reality of the camera came clear - teething problems, breaking doors etc. It sounded like the camera just wasn't ready. The SL was a better option.
Then the X1D II was released, and I put my order in, along with two lenses, filters etc. I was pleasantly surprised when the two lenses appeared (21 & 80), and not surprised or particularly bothered at the camera delays. I'd rather wait for things to be right than get a faulty camera.
But I was more than a little annoyed to have my credit card debited on order. That's never happened to me before. Not a Hasselblad issue - that's down to the store I used. Not sure I'll use them again.
Roll on September. I'm assuming my lenses will sit on the shelf until Christmas. That's life. My Leicas are still working, and they are as good as they ever were.
The saga continues. Hasselblad does not reply to requests about information and why it is that they charged my credit card in full prior to shipping. I have contacted Hasselblad Americas in the hopes that they understand the legal ramifications of their actions. All I wanted was honest information and they appear unwilling to simply tell the truth. Sad because the produce is superior. The customer experience, unfortunately is not!
I for one, have 2 X1D bodies and ordered the X1DII on the day of the announcement.
Since then, I have had some really strange feedback/requests from my dealer such as the delay is due to the shoulder strap being delayed, and also, I was asked if I could accept a body without WIFI function due to certification issues etc. I also paid for my X1Dii in June. And was told late June early July delivery.
On this forum however, the usual HB fanboy mentality is to downvote your karma and make stupid excuses such as if you don't like HB giving bad service then go buy a Fuji.
So don't expect any sympathy here from the hand full of old age hobbyists landscape photographers who have no idea of the modern world...
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 13, 2019, 02:32:11 AM
I for one, have 2 X1D bodies and ordered the X1DII on the day of the announcement.
Since then, I have had some really strange feedback/requests from my dealer such as the delay is due to the shoulder strap being delayed, and also, I was asked if I could accept a body without WIFI function due to certification issues etc. I also paid for my X1Dii in June. And was told late June early July delivery.
On this forum however, the usual HB fanboy mentality is to downvote your karma and make stupid excuses such as if you don't like HB giving bad service then go buy a Fuji.
So don't expect any sympathy here from the hand full of old age hobbyists landscape photographers who have no idea of the modern world...
You consistently confirm that you are the one who is clueless about how to navigate the modern world. The rest of us know what we want, know what to expect, and act accordingly. You just can't stand that the world doesn't operate the way YOU want it to, and that others know how to set their expectations and live within them. I had a similar world view when I was 12.
I can't speak for others here, but I am no HB fanboy. If I was not so satisfied with the X1D system, I would be out of it so fast your head would spin.
BTW, speaking of the modern world, I am astonished you paid in advance for a camera. I have NEVER done that. And yes, I have an X1D II on order.
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 13, 2019, 02:32:11 AM
On this forum however, the usual HB fanboy mentality is to downvote your karma and make stupid excuses such as if you don't like HB giving bad service then go buy a Fuji.
So don't expect any sympathy here from the hand full of old age hobbyists landscape photographers who have no idea of the modern world...
You are more than welcome to complain about shipping delays and the like.
What you are NOT welcome to do is insult other members of the forum.
Please be polite in future.
Hello everyone,
I placed my order on the 13th of July and was told the camera will be available on the 15th of August or in two days. Fingers crossed!
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 13, 2019, 02:32:11 AM
I for one, have 2 X1D bodies and ordered the X1DII on the day of the announcement.
Since then, I have had some really strange feedback/requests from my dealer such as the delay is due to the shoulder strap being delayed, and also, I was asked if I could accept a body without WIFI function due to certification issues etc. I also paid for my X1Dii in June. And was told late June early July delivery.
But hey, I in a contrary do like your comments, especially this one as it does spoil some light.
What I don't understand is why did you order mk2?
Wasn't it clear that will be a delay?
There was nothing Hasselblad did on time during these 3 years with X1D.
Moreover, expect manufacturing and quality issues.
Do expect bugs in FW
Unkept promises.
The proof is on Hasselblad, so far that was what we got
Every time I have made any statements any comments on this forum, I have backed it up with reasoning, and my own perspective. If anyone has asked for more information or disagreed, I have responded.
The reason I have invested to heavily in the X system is because it allows me to create work different to the masses... the IQ and lenses create something distinguishable from FF.
I will have 3 bodies because it means that I don't have to change lenses during my shoots, in practice I most often use two bodies with the 3rd as a backup.
From Hasselblad via my UK dealer a few moments ago:
"Thank you for your purchase of the Hasselblad X1D II 50C. Unfortunately, shipping of the X1D II 50C to countries within Europe has been delayed due to the new EU directive RoHS 2.0. The current plan is to ship the cameras starting mid-September 2019. We will update you in case there are any further changes affected by the new directive. Thank you for your understanding and patience."
A quick Google reveals that RoHS 3 came into effect on July 22nd, 2019 (link (https://www.rohsguide.com/)) so maybe the reference to 2.0 is a typo? It's rather disappointing that lack of compliance wasn't spotted earlier but, on the plus side, there is an implication that there isn't a fundamental flaw in the design, just the materials used.
Update: I see from this thread (http://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/index.php?topic=6412.0) that territories outside the EU are receiving their cameras a little earlier.
I personally don't think the delay has anything to do with RoHs. RoHs might require some additional compliance but from what I have been told I suspect the real issue is to do with WIFI certificates in eu other territories. It's just easier for them to use RoHs as an excuse in stead of their own bad planning.
Sold my X1D equipment a few months ago, moved to Fuji....No regrets...Fuji is transparent, makes promises on availability that it keeps....Not as "Pretty", but more menu options and great results....Love the Hasselblad in theory, but not in practice......Like I have been saying for months, and been criticized for....Hasselblad is a poorly-run Company at this point in time, makes promises that it doesn't keep......There are now alternatives.....I wish the best for Hasselblad, but Victor would not be happy with the way his Company is managed.....
Sandy, how could you? Your Karma is almost as bad as mine...
Quote from: Sandy Blaser on August 18, 2019, 02:50:52 AM
Sold my X1D equipment a few months ago, moved to Fuji....No regrets...Fuji is transparent, makes promises on availability that it keeps....Not as "Pretty", but more menu options and great results....Love the Hasselblad in theory, but not in practice......Like I have been saying for months, and been criticized for....Hasselblad is a poorly-run Company at this point in time, makes promises that it doesn't keep......There are now alternatives.....I wish the best for Hasselblad, but Victor would not be happy with the way his Company is managed.....
The only problem for me is that Fuji keeps its promises about things I just don't want. Hasselblad may not keeps its promises about delivery schedules, but at least when they deliver, it's what I really want.
Hamburger mentality- I want it now and I want it while it's hot.
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 18, 2019, 03:13:40 AM
Sandy, how could you? Your Karma is almost as bad as mine...
Well, Sandy left a couple of months ago. He would probably still be ahead of you, but you really have been coming on strong in his absence to pick up the slack.
I ordered from BH the day it was announced. Was originally told july. I called last week and now they are saying sometime in September. Anybody get from BH yet?
Only demo cameras in the wild. Hasselblad will ship out to US dealers on the 28th Aug. for Europe a couple weeks later.
Just received an update from my dealer.
HB personnel coming back from holiday this week it seems.
So far, it looks like everything is on track and I have "confirmation" my camera would ship out from HB HQ on the 28th.....
Got UPS notice that my X1D II was shipped by HasselBLAD today!!!
Received confirmation from my dealer that my X1D II has shipped. :)
Joe
In the US and received notice it will be delivered tomorrow (Tuesday).
Are these deliveries in the US coming from dealers or Hasselblad itself?
I ordered directly from Hasselblad on the day it was introduced.
Come on guys, how can it be that the Americans get the camera earlier than we European,s from a European company. :)
Good luck with your new tool! I am still waiting for mine. :-\
Greetings
Wolfram
Asia Pacific still has not set a date for availability. :(
Decided to pre-order it from BH, a work around from waiting for the availability in Asia Pacific.
Quote from: strohscw on August 27, 2019, 05:01:13 PM
Come on guys, how can it be that the Americans get the camera earlier than we European,s from a European company. :)
Good luck with your new tool! I am still waiting for mine. :-\
Greetings
Wolfram
According to Hasselblad there is, or was, an RoHS issue. Somehow I doubt that many X1D II bodies will be left at the local recycling depot but that, it appears, has nothing to do with the price of fish. ;D
I share your frustration.
Any updates today? Did those who got a delivery notice yesterday end up receiving their cameras? Has anyone heard anything about Phocus Mobile 2 releasing? HB originally told me it would launch with the cameras.
According to information from my distributor, Hasselblad did ship out the first units to people who bought from the Hasselblad official store website.
Yes. I did receive mine today via UPS. Had only about 10 minutes with it as I was very busy today and the it arrived rather late in the day.
First impression very positive. Very nice finish, delightful to hold. Both the rear screen and EVF both seem to be improved. Of course I knew about the rear screen but the EVF seems improved as well but not sure how. Another thing I did not know about is that the interface looks different. Different fonts and different layout. I think its mostly all the same functions but they are in different places. Any way I took some shots and everything seems good. Haven't analyzed the resulting files yet but I would assume they are identical to the original XD1. I do have the original and have worked with it for quite some time. The II feels a little bit different in the hand and in operation. A couple of initial hiccups include the fact that I couldn't set it to auto ISO fro some reason. It took me a minute or so to realize the camera ships in the M mode. Haha - my bad but you know I just wanted to turn it on and start shooting and wasn't paying attention. One other thing is that once touch seemed to stop working on the rear screen and I had to shut down and start up. However given my other impulsive mistake I cannot rule out some operator error.
That's awesome to hear!
@Vidio, do you mind posting some unboxing pictures? Thanks in advance.
Quote from: vidio on August 28, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
Yes. I did receive mine today via UPS. Had only about 10 minutes with it as I was very busy today and the it arrived rather late in the day.
First impression very positive. Very nice finish, delightful to hold. Both the rear screen and EVF both seem to be improved. Of course I knew about the rear screen but the EVF seems improved as well but not sure how. Another thing I did not know about is that the interface looks different. Different fonts and different layout. I think its mostly all the same functions but they are in different places. Any way I took some shots and everything seems good. Haven't analyzed the resulting files yet but I would assume they are identical to the original XD1. I do have the original and have worked with it for quite some time. The II feels a little bit different in the hand and in operation. A couple of initial hiccups include the fact that I couldn't set it to auto ISO fro some reason. It took me a minute or so to realize the camera ships in the M mode. Haha - my bad but you know I just wanted to turn it on and start shooting and wasn't paying attention. One other thing is that once touch seemed to stop working on the rear screen and I had to shut down and start up. However given my other impulsive mistake I cannot rule out some operator error.
Congrats on the new camera, vidio!
About the EVF, it is completely new in the X1D II, and it feels improved because it actually is :) If you are interested, please see my review, it might save you some time: https://www.vieribottazzini.com/2019/08/a-first-impression-hasselblad-x1d-ii-review.html (https://www.vieribottazzini.com/2019/08/a-first-impression-hasselblad-x1d-ii-review.html)
Quote from: matthewcng on August 28, 2019, 03:47:56 PM
That's awesome to hear!
@Vidio, do you mind posting some unboxing pictures? Thanks in advance.
Matthew,
Here is mine, if you are interested: https://youtu.be/yqNcye7gx9o (https://youtu.be/yqNcye7gx9o)
Best regards,
Vieri
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Matthew,
Here is mine, if you are interested: https://youtu.be/yqNcye7gx9o (https://youtu.be/yqNcye7gx9o)
Best regards,
Vieri
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Hi Vieri,
Thank you. I have viewed it twice already. Given that your's was a demo unit, I am wondering if there is a difference in the packaging.
Any shipments from B&H or Adorama yet? Both sites still show pre-order only?
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 29, 2019, 12:17:24 AM
Any shipments from B&H or Adorama yet? Both sites still show pre-order only?
Just got off the phone from BH, they said the shipment will arrive on 31st, prepare item on Sept 1st and ship out on Sept 2nd. That is the time frame I was given.
Thanks Matthew, have you placed an order before or are you only placing it now?
I received mine today, and unfortunately, like the Mark I, I have an issue. The LCD screen has a mind of its own, scrolling and selecting options, going into submenus, etc, randomly. I took the battery out, put it back in, and it worked again for a few minutes, but then while shooting it started moving the focus point around.
Any ideas? After Mark I scroll wheel issues, this is obviously frustrating.
Quote from: tbullock on August 29, 2019, 08:54:32 AM
I received mine today, and unfortunately, like the Mark I, I have an issue. The LCD screen has a mind of its own, scrolling and selecting options, going into submenus, etc, randomly. I took the battery out, put it back in, and it worked again for a few minutes, but then while shooting it started moving the focus point around.
Any ideas? After Mark I scroll wheel issues, this is obviously frustrating.
I have a possible suggestion for the focus point jumping around when shooting. If you have your face against the camera might it be that you are touching the screen with your face or nose?
Best regards,
Vieri
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 29, 2019, 05:07:25 AM
Thanks Matthew, have you placed an order before or are you only placing it now?
I placed a pre-order on the first day. I was told I was in the top 25, but they are expecting a HUGE shipment. Allocation shouldn't be a problem.
Quote from: Vieri on August 29, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
I have a possible suggestion for the focus point jumping around when shooting. If you have your face against the camera might it be that you are touching the screen with your face or nose?
Thanks, but no, I simply hold the camera in front of me, and the menus or focus points jump on the rear screen. It's actually fun to watch. It rearranged my icons too.
Hasselblad was very responsive and I sent them a video
Quote from: vidio on August 28, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
Yes. I did receive mine today via UPS. Had only about 10 minutes with it as I was very busy today and the it arrived rather late in the day.
First impression very positive. Very nice finish, delightful to hold. Both the rear screen and EVF both seem to be improved. Of course I knew about the rear screen but the EVF seems improved as well but not sure how. Another thing I did not know about is that the interface looks different. Different fonts and different layout. I think its mostly all the same functions but they are in different places. Any way I took some shots and everything seems good. Haven't analyzed the resulting files yet but I would assume they are identical to the original XD1. I do have the original and have worked with it for quite some time. The II feels a little bit different in the hand and in operation. A couple of initial hiccups include the fact that I couldn't set it to auto ISO fro some reason. It took me a minute or so to realize the camera ships in the M mode. Haha - my bad but you know I just wanted to turn it on and start shooting and wasn't paying attention. One other thing is that once touch seemed to stop working on the rear screen and I had to shut down and start up. However given my other impulsive mistake I cannot rule out some operator error.
Hello Vidio -
Would you mind to tell us if HB has resurrected the "Long Exposure countdown".
Something I really appreciate like Vieri... ;D
Thank you.
- Dimitri
Quote from: Dimitric on August 29, 2019, 04:17:57 PM
Hello Vidio -
Would you mind to tell us if HB has resurrected the "Long Exposure countdown".
Something I really appreciate like Vieri... ;D
Thank you.
- Dimitri
Vieri has found a workaround for "Long Exposure countdown" issue. See his review and search for "UPDATE AUG 20, 2019".
Quote from: tbullock on August 29, 2019, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: Vieri on August 29, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
I have a possible suggestion for the focus point jumping around when shooting. If you have your face against the camera might it be that you are touching the screen with your face or nose?
Thanks, but no, I simply hold the camera in front of me, and the menus or focus points jump on the rear screen. It's actually fun to watch. It rearranged my icons too.
Hasselblad was very responsive and I sent them a video
That's super frustrating. I'm sorry to hear about your bad luck.
Please keep us updated as to HB response and if you find a home-fix solution with them or if you need an actual replacement?
I hope HB don't give you stupid answers like don't let your face touch the screen.
Yesterday I went to the Swiss distributor for Hasselblad to have a first attempt with the new X1D II and it's lenses. I was surprised when I holded it for the first time in my hands. It was very well balanced, especially with the 45mm lens. So comfortable and not very big and not heavy. I felt in love very quickly. It gave me the impression of being robust and sturdy, but not like a brick. Putting the 65mm on it, it was quite a step up for more weight (+ 300gr), but still manageable for my way of camera use. The check with the 90mm and the more heavy 80/1.9 showed a similar effect. 90mm very nice to hold, the 80mm was another beast, nothing to hold the whole day (for me). The supplier showed me pictures of mountains he made with the X1D to demonstrate it's capabilities of the dynamic headroom and the lens quality of the 21mm. Really really stunning - the white foreground of the snowfield was very dark, almost black when coming out from the RAW, but with the help of the Phocus Software it was possible to resolve the white snowfield and retaining the early morning light and colors and keeping the blue sky as it should be. A very natural looking picture as it is with humans eyes, transported on a 75" 8K screen.
As I am a hobbyist with higher approach I had seen, that this kind of camera, operation and lens selection is just that, what one should have. Okay the price level is also to mention and not everyone can afford it that easy. I don't have any stress to buy it now but I really fell in love at the very first moment and I plan to buy it sooner or later with the 65mm as the first lens. And the good thing is, that they use the Nikon flash protocol. A very practical set to start with.
For the deliveries the salesman had no real dates to confirm, just saying to expect his first deliveries at the end of September 2019. As I have no hurry that's just to let you know for now. How it will be in the next 6 month is hard to say.
And a last tip for all users: he recommended to use it with the Phocus software, because it will give the best results. Better than with Lightroom or any other software. Better color handling with brighter gamut, perfect sharpening, ideal lens correction for vignetting and other optical misbehavior. ;)
Regards, Daniel
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 29, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
Quote from: tbullock on August 29, 2019, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: Vieri on August 29, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
I have a possible suggestion for the focus point jumping around when shooting. If you have your face against the camera might it be that you are touching the screen with your face or nose?
Thanks, but no, I simply hold the camera in front of me, and the menus or focus points jump on the rear screen. It's actually fun to watch. It rearranged my icons too.
Hasselblad was very responsive and I sent them a video
I hope HB don't give you stupid answers like don't let your face touch the screen.
Unless HB have Pinocchio among their customers 8)
Quote from: Photofreund66 on August 29, 2019, 07:33:34 PM
Yesterday I went to the Swiss distributor for Hasselblad to have a first attempt with the new X1D II and it's lenses. I was surprised when I holded it for the first time in my hands. It was very well balanced, especially with the 45mm lens.
Just got an email (probably like everybody else here), about the bundle with the 45mm, giving you 900$US discount. Quite an attractive offer.
The Kit option is really good value for money.
But, how on earth do you only make it available now?
Certainly there are customers who already paid/orders their body + lens and now this surprise?
I don't care because I already have a 45, but I would have perhaps bought another lens with my X1Dii why not offer me a saving too?
Imagine you paid full price for your X1Dii and a 45mm and before you even get your backorder completed they drop the price of your investment by US$900
It's simply ridiculous
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 29, 2019, 06:17:38 PM
Quote from: tbullock on August 29, 2019, 10:30:19 AM
Quote from: Vieri on August 29, 2019, 09:46:32 AM
I have a possible suggestion for the focus point jumping around when shooting. If you have your face against the camera might it be that you are touching the screen with your face or nose?
Thanks, but no, I simply hold the camera in front of me, and the menus or focus points jump on the rear screen. It's actually fun to watch. It rearranged my icons too.
Hasselblad was very responsive and I sent them a video
That's super frustrating. I'm sorry to hear about your bad luck.
Please keep us updated as to HB response and if you find a home-fix solution with them or if you need an actual replacement?
I hope HB don't give you stupid answers like don't let your face touch the screen.
Your ignorance is only equal to your arrogance. Read the manual, and you'll see what I mean. Best regards,
Vieri
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 30, 2019, 04:10:38 AM
The Kit option is really good value for money.
But, how on earth do you only make it available now?
Certainly there are customers who already paid/orders their body + lens and now this surprise?
I don't care because I already have a 45, but I would have perhaps bought another lens with my X1Dii why not offer me a saving too?
Imagine you paid full price for your X1Dii and a 45mm and before you even get your backorder completed they drop the price of your investment by US$900
It's simply ridiculous
Again, read the offer before spreading your usual poison.
"If you have previously purchased an X1D II and XCD 45mm lens separately between 19 June 2019 and 30 September 2019, you are eligible for a cash back of the difference between the total amount for the X1D II and XCD 45 purchased separately and the amount of the combo offer. If you ordered only the X1D II, but now wish to also purchase the XCD 45 lens before 30 September 2019, you are eligible for a discount on the XCD 45"
Best regards,
Vieri
You mad bro?
Uhm.... so I admit that I did not see the disclaimer about cash back if you already purchased.
However, does that apply to other distributors or only if you bought from the HB.com store direct?
Nevertheless, it's 2019, and kits are sold by almost every supplier, ever. So they would you only think about it now? This should have been something that they did at launch or sales availability. Who wants to now live with the hassle of trying to claim back money from them? They probably hope that most people would just not even try because the process of them paying back your US$900 won't be as simple...
In addition to that, I know a various HB distributors that are NOT happy with this product launch, because it's the same kind of mess they had with the original launch.
Lastly, the only reason the shipped out the HB.com direct orders first is because they messed up and took customers money with the promise that the availability was two weeks away, then it ended up being months later.... so they solved their own customer issues first and screws over the other distributors who has no Option but to wait...
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 30, 2019, 06:35:59 AM
You mad bro?
Uhm.... so I admit that I did not see the disclaimer about cash back if you already purchased.
However, does that apply to other distributors or only if you bought from the HB.com store direct?
Nevertheless, it's 2019, and kits are sold by almost every supplier, ever. So they would you only think about it now? This should have been something that they did at launch or sales availability. Who wants to now live with the hassle of trying to claim back money from them? They probably hope that most people would just not even try because the process of them paying back your US$900 won't be as simple...
In addition to that, I know a various HB distributors that are NOT happy with this product launch, because it's the same kind of mess they had with the original launch.
Lastly, the only reason the shipped out the HB.com direct orders first is because they messed up and took customers money with the promise that the availability was two weeks away, then it ended up being months later.... so they solved their own customer issues first and screws over the other distributors who has no Option but to wait...
No, I am not mad, and I am most definitely not your bro. What I am, is done with you though. Before that, let me try and help you one last time, since what you are, it seems, is still unable to read. Same page, a bit lower:
"FOR PURCHASES FROM OFFICIAL DEALERS
In order to claim your discount or cash back for products purchased at an official dealer, please contact them directly to find out more details. Find a dealer here"
Bye.
Vieri
News flash from Northern California.
On Tuesday I was told my X1D Mk II would arrive in two to three weeks. This morning (Thursday), I received a call from my dealer (Camera West in Walnut Creek, California) that my camera had arrived.
My question is: should I go on holiday as planned on Friday and pick up the camera next Tuesday, or should I just stop by my dealer Saturday morning?
Never the less, I'll be doing some serious testing next week. Will report back with my impressions.
I have received confirmation from the Australian distributor that a small batch will be shipped 1st week of September from Sweden. So, I expect I'll see my camera around or just after mid month. Hopefully there's enough to fill some other orders.
Suits me fine as I'm away till the 9th anyway. :)
Gordon
Quote from: Dimitric on August 29, 2019, 04:17:57 PM
Quote from: vidio on August 28, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
Yes. I did receive mine today via UPS. Had only about 10 minutes with it as I was very busy today and the it arrived rather late in the day.
First impression very positive. Very nice finish, delightful to hold. Both the rear screen and EVF both seem to be improved. Of course I knew about the rear screen but the EVF seems improved as well but not sure how. Another thing I did not know about is that the interface looks different. Different fonts and different layout. I think its mostly all the same functions but they are in different places. Any way I took some shots and everything seems good. Haven't analyzed the resulting files yet but I would assume they are identical to the original XD1. I do have the original and have worked with it for quite some time. The II feels a little bit different in the hand and in operation. A couple of initial hiccups include the fact that I couldn't set it to auto ISO fro some reason. It took me a minute or so to realize the camera ships in the M mode. Haha - my bad but you know I just wanted to turn it on and start shooting and wasn't paying attention. One other thing is that once touch seemed to stop working on the rear screen and I had to shut down and start up. However given my other impulsive mistake I cannot rule out some operator error.
Hello Vidio -
Would you mind to tell us if HB has resurrected the "Long Exposure countdown".
Something I really appreciate like Vieri... ;D
Thank you.
- Dimitri
Mine came today and I checked. Version 1.0 firmware still turns the screen off during long exposure countdown. You can wave your hand near the EVF to get it to turn the LCD back on for a few seconds, but it doesn't stay on.
Just got an email notification from BH, the X1D II has been shipped out.
Quote from: Shuttermuse on August 30, 2019, 06:35:59 AM
Lastly, the only reason the shipped out the HB.com direct orders first is because they messed up and took customers money with the promise that the availability was two weeks away, then it ended up being months later.... so they solved their own customer issues first and screws over the other distributors who has no Option but to wait...
For the record, I ordered my X1D II 50C through a dealer, Peter Lorber of Custom Photo Images in Boca Raton, FL, not directly from Hasselblad's online store. I received the camera yesterday (Thursday, August 29).
Joe
Quote from: jwillson on August 30, 2019, 03:58:28 PM
Quote from: Dimitric on August 29, 2019, 04:17:57 PM
Quote from: vidio on August 28, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
Yes. I did receive mine today via UPS. Had only about 10 minutes with it as I was very busy today and the it arrived rather late in the day.
First impression very positive. Very nice finish, delightful to hold. Both the rear screen and EVF both seem to be improved. Of course I knew about the rear screen but the EVF seems improved as well but not sure how. Another thing I did not know about is that the interface looks different. Different fonts and different layout. I think its mostly all the same functions but they are in different places. Any way I took some shots and everything seems good. Haven't analyzed the resulting files yet but I would assume they are identical to the original XD1. I do have the original and have worked with it for quite some time. The II feels a little bit different in the hand and in operation. A couple of initial hiccups include the fact that I couldn't set it to auto ISO fro some reason. It took me a minute or so to realize the camera ships in the M mode. Haha - my bad but you know I just wanted to turn it on and start shooting and wasn't paying attention. One other thing is that once touch seemed to stop working on the rear screen and I had to shut down and start up. However given my other impulsive mistake I cannot rule out some operator error.
Hello Vidio -
Would you mind to tell us if HB has resurrected the "Long Exposure countdown".
Something I really appreciate like Vieri... ;D
Thank you.
- Dimitri
Mine came today and I checked. Version 1.0 firmware still turns the screen off during long exposure countdown. You can wave your hand near the EVF to get it to turn the LCD back on for a few seconds, but it doesn't stay on.
Thank you for confirming us that! While waiting (and hoping) for a more permanent fix, it is good to hear that the fix I reported is still working in shipping version cameras :)
Best regards,
Vieri
No problem, Vieri, it's actually an effective workaround. Glad you pointed it out.
Quote from: jwillson on August 30, 2019, 03:58:28 PM
Quote from: Dimitric on August 29, 2019, 04:17:57 PM
Quote from: vidio on August 28, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
Yes. I did receive mine today via UPS. Had only about 10 minutes with it as I was very busy today and the it arrived rather late in the day.
First impression very positive. Very nice finish, delightful to hold. Both the rear screen and EVF both seem to be improved. Of course I knew about the rear screen but the EVF seems improved as well but not sure how. Another thing I did not know about is that the interface looks different. Different fonts and different layout. I think its mostly all the same functions but they are in different places. Any way I took some shots and everything seems good. Haven't analyzed the resulting files yet but I would assume they are identical to the original XD1. I do have the original and have worked with it for quite some time. The II feels a little bit different in the hand and in operation. A couple of initial hiccups include the fact that I couldn't set it to auto ISO fro some reason. It took me a minute or so to realize the camera ships in the M mode. Haha - my bad but you know I just wanted to turn it on and start shooting and wasn't paying attention. One other thing is that once touch seemed to stop working on the rear screen and I had to shut down and start up. However given my other impulsive mistake I cannot rule out some operator error.
Hello Vidio -
Would you mind to tell us if HB has resurrected the "Long Exposure countdown".
Something I really appreciate like Vieri... ;D
Thank you.
- Dimitri
Mine came today and I checked. Version 1.0 firmware still turns the screen off during long exposure countdown. You can wave your hand near the EVF to get it to turn the LCD back on for a few seconds, but it doesn't stay on.
Hello and thank you very much for your answer... ;)
Quote from: SrMi on August 29, 2019, 04:55:16 PM
Quote from: Dimitric on August 29, 2019, 04:17:57 PM
Hello Vidio -
Would you mind to tell us if HB has resurrected the "Long Exposure countdown".
Something I really appreciate like Vieri... ;D
Thank you.
- Dimitri
Vieri has found a workaround for "Long Exposure countdown" issue. See his review and search for "UPDATE AUG 20, 2019".
Hello and thank you for this... ;)
Mine was shipped from B&H yesterday, and is now, apparently in the hands of DHL. Not sure when it will get here (the shipping is the least of it - clearing customs can take as long).
Just received mine from B&H. I am based in Hong Kong.
Arrived today - headed to the beach with the XCD 80/1.9 (cropped)
Still working my way through menus and stuff ...
Hi there,
I live near Munich in Germany and I ordered my X1D II on the 10th of September via the Hasselblad Online Store. Today it arrived ...
Greetings from Munich
Oli
wow! talk about quick! i debated upgrading to an x1d ii for several months and finally ordered from hasselblad last friday, 7 days ago. they notified me this morning that it has shipped and i will receive it oct 2.
Mine arrived (in the UK) this afternoon. I'm in love. :-[
Foul weather today so it was the perfect opportunity to get the battery fully charged and have a bit of a familiarity fondle. ;D