It's a pretty crazy world at the moment, and reminds me of the phrase "may you live in interesting times" :-)

Quote from: TimH on April 10, 2025, 06:03:40 AMThe big question still unresolved is whether Hasselblad will be classed as a Chinese company (with a tariff rate of 105% or a Swedish company (with a tariff of 10-20%).  And will the lenses have a tariff rate different from the bodies. 

Tariffs in the U.S. are generally based on the type of goods and country of origin for the finished product. Hasselblad is a Swedish company which is where their cameras are manufactured. Their cameras are taxed, though an import tariff, based on their production in Sweden.

The lenses would be based on their country of origin which with one exception is Japan. The exception is the new XCD 75P which is made in China.

Tariffs on accessories would also be based on their country of origin which varies.

Quote from: MSuser on April 12, 2025, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: TimH on April 10, 2025, 06:03:40 AMThe big question still unresolved is whether Hasselblad will be classed as a Chinese company (with a tariff rate of 105% or a Swedish company (with a tariff of 10-20%).  And will the lenses have a tariff rate different from the bodies. 

Tariffs in the U.S. are generally based on the type of goods and country of origin for the finished product. Hasselblad is a Swedish company which is where their cameras are manufactured. Their cameras are taxed, though an import tariff, based on their production in Sweden.

The lenses would be based on their country of origin which with one exception is Japan. The exception is the new XCD 75P which is made in China.

Tariffs on accessories would also be based on their country of origin which varies.

Interesting video. Thanks. As a side/additional note, not only is the final country of assembly/manufacturing the one that determines tariffs BUT that country is also credited with the final price of the export. As a result and in the case of something very high volume and high priced like the iPhone, while only 5% of the content (labor/material) is provided by China (based on the last report I read), they are credited with the full value of the export. This is one of the many reasons that blanket tariffs have never been used successfully and make no sense. It takes years to develop meaningful tariff policies, not days. Nuff Said.

where's the line drawn? If gear is made of imported parts, are the tariffs going to reflect the proportions from different countries where those parts come from?  Supposing the parts are imported from another country...theyre made there, but in turn, the basic parts are imported from yet another country...is that going to be taken into account? It gets silly.

It's moot. if the tariffs are based of the country of origin of the finished product, then in Hasselblad's case, it is Sweden.

Agreed. So, as an example of silliness, the BH Price on the 20-35mm lens new is $5929. I, being a typical hobby user thought that was a bit high so I started looking at used lenses. A trusted Ebay seller from Japan was selling that lens used for $5000 two weeks ago. That same lens today is $6377 USED. On Monday, it was $6900. Clearly, the seller has to make some adjustments and is now required to "wait it out" for the market to correct and have sellers like B&H run out of older pre-tariff stock. Note also that the same Ebay seller had offered to cover any import fees when I first contacted them. Another used one (11 shutter activations) sold in 2 hours from a US private seller for $5k. This imbalance of pricing will now continue world-wide and product that we in the US want will simply be shipped to other countries.

Today's latest Trump Tariff climbdown doesn't include cameras, only smartphones and computer parts from China (weirdly backdated to April 5th).

https://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/USDHSCBP-3db9e55?wgt_ref=USDHSCBP_WIDGET_2

Who knows what will happen next week in the ongoing self destruction of the grand ole USA... maybe cameras will be included, maybe from other Asian countries too.

Looks like some of the things he wants remade in the USA that were the basis for the tariffs in the first place won't be subject to tariffs after all... how that's going to help them be made in the USA I guess we'll find out next week too (maybe)!

At this rate, if the dollar/ value of T-Bills keeps collapsing like it has been due to the genius in chief, wages in the USA will soon be competitive with Vietnam and his dream of making things in the USA might actually happen. LOL.

Maybe that's the master plan!

At some point, those in charge will decide how to properly use targeted tariffs and things like cameras that can never be made in the US will be removed just as cell phones and other tech. It's a world-wide economy and supply chain built over 30 years +. You can't change that in 90 days. I don't care who you think you are.

Quote from: MSuser on April 12, 2025, 01:14:06 PM

At the 3:11 mark it looks like they use some old 60mm? CF lens to check for IQ.

Quote from: bmikiten on April 05, 2025, 06:46:51 AMI've noticed some overseas vendors have raised their prices to the US by 35% already making the 20-35mm lens which was already a bit of a reach, now completely out of control from a price perspective. I'm wondering what this silliness will do to the price of used products.

https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/product/hasselblad-xcd-20-35mm-f-3-2-4-5-e

Strange too that no US retailer I can find has raised up even the 10% which has been in effect since the 9th? 

Paul