Does the paint still come off on the X2D, or has this been finally fixed?

I've not had any paint issues with my X2D's. I have one from release day and one from about 4 months later plus my Earth Explorer. The original one definitely has signs of wear and tear but I carry my cameras on a strap or belt clip. Not usually in a bag. I've dropped my original onto cobblestones in Venice and it has a small ding in the corner. It's been to 10 countries on 4 continents. Taken over 15000 frames. It's well used and I have not anything more than I would expect from this type of use. Still works perfectly too.

Maybe there's some quality control. But all my bodies are fine. Not like my old XPan which seemed to be allergic to its paint.

Gordon

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Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AM

Quote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.

Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.

I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?

They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit

I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.

I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.

I got this direct from my contact at D1.

Gordon

Quote from: flash on November 12, 2024, 09:19:18 AM

Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PM

Quote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PM

Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AM

Quote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.

Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.

I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?

They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit

I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.

I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.

I got this direct from my contact at D1.

Gordon

Thanks for the update.  The distribution of Hasselblad gear in AU does seem to be a real mess. Hopefully CRK can do something better than DJI/D1, but let's wait and see (again) :-)

Lars

Quote from: Larsb on November 12, 2024, 06:52:41 PM

Quote from: flash on November 12, 2024, 09:19:18 AM

Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PM

Quote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PM

Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AM

Quote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.

Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.

I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?

They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit

I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.

I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.

I got this direct from my contact at D1.

Gordon

Thanks for the update.  The distribution of Hasselblad gear in AU does seem to be a real mess. Hopefully CRK can do something better than DJI/D1, but let's wait and see (again) :-)

Lars

They sure did by increasing prices when AUSNZ already has the one of highest retail prices

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Quote from: Larsb on November 12, 2024, 06:52:41 PM

Quote from: flash on November 12, 2024, 09:19:18 AM

Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PM

Quote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PM

Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AM

Quote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.

Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.

I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?

They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit

I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.

I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.

I got this direct from my contact at D1.

Gordon

Thanks for the update.  The distribution of Hasselblad gear in AU does seem to be a real mess. Hopefully CRK can do something better than DJI/D1, but let's wait and see (again) :-)

Lars

They sure did by increasing prices when AUSNZ already has the one of highest retail prices

Yep. The Earth Explorer kit went up $500!!. Glad I got mine early. Now it feels like a bargain. hahahahaha!

Gordon

When I purchased my 38v lens last year, I paid over $7k, then a bit later (around the time I heard that CRK were no longer the distributors in AU), it dropped by AUD$1,000 to around $6K (roughly).  It seemed like a coincidence that it corresponded with CRK no longer being the distributor.  I wonder if the prices will go up again for the Hasselblad lenses by $1K.  I'm not sure that having CRK in AU as the distributor is necessarily a good thing.

CRK currently list it for 6230.

Hasselblad page is here:

https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad

For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.

Gordon

Quote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 12:29:30 PMCRK currently list it for 6230.

Hasselblad page is here:

https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad

For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.

Gordon

Thanks Gordon.  I just checked out CRK's website for Hasselblad gear, and I must say that it is a much better effort than what DJI/D1 did over the last year.  The website includes not just the prices, but also the ETA, which is a considerable improvement.

Looks like the 75p will be available in 2 days (according to the website), and I am looking forward to receiving mine.

cheers,

Lars

Quote from: Larsb on November 13, 2024, 12:35:23 PM

Quote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 12:29:30 PMCRK currently list it for 6230.

Hasselblad page is here:

https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad

For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.

Gordon

Thanks Gordon.  I just checked out CRK's website for Hasselblad gear, and I must say that it is a much better effort than what DJI/D1 did over the last year.  The website includes not just the prices, but also the ETA, which is a considerable improvement.

Looks like the 75p will be available in 2 days (according to the website), and I am looking forward to receiving mine.

cheers,

Lars

They've always done this. Take with a bit of a grain of salt. I have found, historically that CRK generally needs an extra day or three to get the logistics sorted and ship. I have had a cash account with them for nearly a decade, so have a bit of experience with them. Although it's been over a year since I purchased from them.

My 75 was ordered from D1 and they say shipping should be the same time as from CRK. We will see. I'm not in a rush. This one is mostly for K to try as I'm building her a small kit (28, 38 and 75) to see if she like the system. She shoots Leica Q's and Canons now.

Gordon

Quote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 06:57:20 PM

Quote from: Larsb on November 13, 2024, 12:35:23 PM

Quote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 12:29:30 PMCRK currently list it for 6230.

Hasselblad page is here:

https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad

For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.

Gordon

Thanks Gordon.  I just checked out CRK's website for Hasselblad gear, and I must say that it is a much better effort than what DJI/D1 did over the last year.  The website includes not just the prices, but also the ETA, which is a considerable improvement.

Looks like the 75p will be available in 2 days (according to the website), and I am looking forward to receiving mine.

cheers,

Lars

They've always done this. Take with a bit of a grain of salt. I have found, historically that CRK generally needs an extra day or three to get the logistics sorted and ship. I have had a cash account with them for nearly a decade, so have a bit of experience with them. Although it's been over a year since I purchased from them.

My 75 was ordered from D1 and they say shipping should be the same time as from CRK. We will see. I'm not in a rush. This one is mostly for K to try as I'm building her a small kit (28, 38 and 75) to see if she like the system. She shoots Leica Q's and Canons now.

Gordon

Thanks Gordon - an extra day or three is fine and no worries for me, but an extra several months would be a different situation.  Anyway, good to see that there is a Website improvement, but hope the prices will not go up too much, which is, at least, my concern with CRK.

I ordered my 75p from CameraPro, but likewise, not in a huge rush to get it.  I was hoping to go to Perth in January, but looks like my boss won't allow that, so I will be lucky if I can even get a Sunday off in the next 6 months

Lars

I bought one.  It arrived yesterday.  Cant wait to create images with it along with the 907x

This is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)

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Quote from: sanglier on October 31, 2024, 08:36:47 AMFor my part, I would have bought  the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.

I already had the 55mm. The one in the kit is slightly better than my original, well used, copy, for some reason. I do mean slightly. But it's there.

I was going to sell a body and the 55 (I have three now) but K has said she wants to try it. So I've set her up with a small kit. 28, 38, 55, and the older 90. I know she likes the files but I reckon it's 50/50 if she'll keep the camera. Possibly, she'll settle on just a couple of lenses. If she doesn't like it I'll get my 28mm back.

Gordon

Quote from: acg69 on February 26, 2025, 05:13:59 AMThis is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)

No two lenses are the same. The question is HOW different are they on average (depends, of course, on what your measure of closeness is). Certain errors seem to be more common - decentering, for instance. It's easier to manufacture precise glass elements than it is to assemble them in perfect alignment. If every unit were tested before shipping, this would be much less of a problem. It's obviously not optimal, or they would do it.

Quote from: acg69 on February 26, 2025, 05:13:59 AMThis is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)

Quote from: flash on October 31, 2024, 09:04:42 AM

Quote from: sanglier on October 31, 2024, 08:36:47 AMFor my part, I would have bought  the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.

I already had the 55mm. The one in the kit is slightly better than my original, well used, copy, for some reason. I do mean slightly. But it's there.

I was going to sell a body and the 55 (I have three now) but K has said she wants to try it. So I've set her up with a small kit. 28, 38, 55, and the older 90. I know she likes the files but I reckon it's 50/50 if she'll keep the camera. Possibly, she'll settle on just a couple of lenses. If she doesn't like it I'll get my 28mm back.

Gordon

What he said... haha.

Copy variation is a thing with any manufactured product. It's certainly a thing in lenses. I used to check multiple lenses and select the one I liked, when I worked as a photographer. If you build a good relationship with your dealer they may allow this. I've also sent brand new lenses back for exchange, more than once because they weren't right. I check and evaluate every new lens I receive. If it's good, I rarely test it again, un less something jumps out at me. I do this with all my gear. An old habit I got while I was working full time.

As for *slightly*. I can see a small difference when I do direct side by side testing. But only side by side. If I put a dozen images on a table and I didn't know which shot was from which lens, I doubt I could tell the difference. The new lens has *slightly* more bite. Neither is decentered. Both are excellent. Just a bit different. A tiny bit. The kind of difference you might see with a good UV filter on the front of a lens. So very slight indeed. But it's there and I noticed it.

I have sold quite a few of my prints off the original copy. It's a perfectly lovely lens. So is the newer one.

Gordon