Mounting an X2D + 80mm 1.9 on a tripod

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thesilentman

80mm 1.9 being a heavy lens (1 kg), what would be the correct way to mount the setup on a tripod in a balanced way?

bmikiten

I used the standard camera tripod mount on all my lenses except the 135 when I'm using the 1.7x converter. There should be no issue as long as you have enough threads engaged (in other words, you don't have something between the base plate an the camera body that interferes) and have the head tight.

flash

I use a short/medium nodal rail on any weighty lens. Generally I have a short one on my tripod anyway if I'm using a normal L bracket.

https://sunwayfoto.com.au/product/sunwayfoto-dmp-200lr-multi-purpose-rail-nodal-slide/

For the last year or so I've mostly used an atoll rotating mount.

https://silencecorner.net/products/atoll-x

Gordon


thesilentman

Quote from: bmikiten on January 08, 2024, 06:06:33 AM
I used the standard camera tripod mount on all my lenses except the 135 when I'm using the 1.7x converter. There should be no issue as long as you have enough threads engaged (in other words, you don't have something between the base plate an the camera body that interferes) and have the head tight.

Something tells me a heavy lens anchored only by the camera body will eventually damage the mount in some way.

thesilentman

Quote from: flash on January 08, 2024, 09:54:50 AM
I use a short/medium nodal rail on any weighty lens. Generally I have a short one on my tripod anyway if I'm using a normal L bracket.

https://sunwayfoto.com.au/product/sunwayfoto-dmp-200lr-multi-purpose-rail-nodal-slide/

For the last year or so I've mostly used an atoll rotating mount.

https://silencecorner.net/products/atoll-x

Gordon

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

bmikiten

Quote from: thesilentman on January 08, 2024, 11:57:41 PM
Quote from: bmikiten on January 08, 2024, 06:06:33 AM
I used the standard camera tripod mount on all my lenses except the 135 when I'm using the 1.7x converter. There should be no issue as long as you have enough threads engaged (in other words, you don't have something between the base plate an the camera body that interferes) and have the head tight.

Something tells me a heavy lens anchored only by the camera body will eventually damage the mount in some way.

I'm a mechanical and electrical engineer and can tell you that the forces placed on a mount that is then integral to the camera body which is then fully attached to a lens are very, very minimal. I'd just make sure you have full thread engagement and move on taking photos.

MGrayson

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Quote from: bmikiten on January 09, 2024, 04:00:26 AM
Quote from: thesilentman on January 08, 2024, 11:57:41 PM
Quote from: bmikiten on January 08, 2024, 06:06:33 AM
I used the standard camera tripod mount on all my lenses except the 135 when I'm using the 1.7x converter. There should be no issue as long as you have enough threads engaged (in other words, you don't have something between the base plate an the camera body that interferes) and have the head tight.

Something tells me a heavy lens anchored only by the camera body will eventually damage the mount in some way.

I'm a mechanical and electrical engineer and can tell you that the forces placed on a mount that is then integral to the camera body which is then fully attached to a lens are very, very minimal. I'd just make sure you have full thread engagement and move on taking photos.

I once forgot a lens mount and attached a Pentax 67 400/4 to a Leica S via adapter and mounted the camera body to the tripod head. The mount suffered no damage, but I was a bit nervous about it. That is a BIG lens. Here it is mounted on the X2D... :D The aperture is 4 inches.


thesilentman

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Quote from: bmikiten on January 09, 2024, 04:00:26 AM
Quote from: thesilentman on January 08, 2024, 11:57:41 PM
Quote from: bmikiten on January 08, 2024, 06:06:33 AM
I used the standard camera tripod mount on all my lenses except the 135 when I'm using the 1.7x converter. There should be no issue as long as you have enough threads engaged (in other words, you don't have something between the base plate an the camera body that interferes) and have the head tight.

Something tells me a heavy lens anchored only by the camera body will eventually damage the mount in some way.

I'm a mechanical and electrical engineer and can tell you that the forces placed on a mount that is then integral to the camera body which is then fully attached to a lens are very, very minimal. I'd just make sure you have full thread engagement and move on taking photos.

I think I should have clarified sooner that I meant the lens mount, not the tripod one :)

bmikiten

Quote from: thesilentman on January 09, 2024, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: bmikiten on January 09, 2024, 04:00:26 AM
Quote from: thesilentman on January 08, 2024, 11:57:41 PM
Quote from: bmikiten on January 08, 2024, 06:06:33 AM
I used the standard camera tripod mount on all my lenses except the 135 when I'm using the 1.7x converter. There should be no issue as long as you have enough threads engaged (in other words, you don't have something between the base plate an the camera body that interferes) and have the head tight.

Something tells me a heavy lens anchored only by the camera body will eventually damage the mount in some way.

I'm a mechanical and electrical engineer and can tell you that the forces placed on a mount that is then integral to the camera body which is then fully attached to a lens are very, very minimal. I'd just make sure you have full thread engagement and move on taking photos.

I think I should have clarified sooner that I meant the lens mount, not the tripod one :)

I'd worry even less about that. Balanced (or semi-balanced) loads just reduce stress even more.


boojum

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Quote from: flash on January 08, 2024, 09:54:50 AMI use a short/medium nodal rail on any weighty lens. Generally I have a short one on my tripod anyway if I'm using a normal L bracket.

https://sunwayfoto.com.au/product/sunwayfoto-dmp-200lr-multi-purpose-rail-nodal-slide/

For the last year or so I've mostly used an atoll rotating mount.

https://silencecorner.net/products/atoll-x

Gordon



You recommend the Atoll mount.  It is 90mm and my 120mm 3.5 is 81mm.  OK, I ask how will an 81mm diameter lens couple to a 90mm collar?


LATER -  I found some YT vids which show how it works.  But, how do you like the Atoll?  Would it handle the 120mm 3.5 well in your opinion?  The company does not specify and mount for Hasselblad but I see you have a link to the X model so I assume that is the one for Hasselblad and for X2D.
Elpis

flash

Quote from: boojum on February 10, 2024, 09:03:20 AM
Quote from: flash on January 08, 2024, 09:54:50 AMI use a short/medium nodal rail on any weighty lens. Generally I have a short one on my tripod anyway if I'm using a normal L bracket.

https://sunwayfoto.com.au/product/sunwayfoto-dmp-200lr-multi-purpose-rail-nodal-slide/

For the last year or so I've mostly used an atoll rotating mount.

https://silencecorner.net/products/atoll-x

Gordon



You recommend the Atoll mount.  It is 90mm and my 120mm 3.5 is 81mm.  OK, I ask how will an 81mm diameter lens couple to a 90mm collar?


LATER -  I found some YT vids which show how it works.  But, how do you like the Atoll?  Would it handle the 120mm 3.5 well in your opinion?  The company does not specify and mount for Hasselblad but I see you have a link to the X model so I assume that is the one for Hasselblad and for X2D.

Sorry. Was away and missed this.

Yes the X (largest) version works with any XCD (or GFX) lens. I have used it with the 135 and TC which is longer than the macro, with no problems.

Gordon