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Title: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: meerec on August 22, 2020, 07:53:07 PM
Has anyone yet used the 907X with the grip and the OVF? Would you share your thoughts and experience?
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: spb-ch on August 22, 2020, 10:13:11 PM
I am also interested to hear about especially the Control Grip experience and also Flash/Trigger use, using of course the Flash Out socket.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: meerec on August 23, 2020, 01:40:42 AM
Yes that's a bit of a bummer, the lack of hot shoe. But I will use the sync cable to Profoto Air Remote, and the rest is the same. Waiting for some field reports and stories, pleeeaaase.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on August 23, 2020, 02:56:09 AM
I've used the "flash out" interface with the 907x to both of my RC flash triggers, works just fine.

I'm waiting for the Special Edition version grip and optical viewfinder accessories to arrive. They look like they'll be especially handy with the 45P lens, for me.

G
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: spb-ch on August 23, 2020, 03:10:22 AM
What sizes either end is the cable for Flash Out? That cable comes with the 907x 50C and I am trying to work out if it will work with my Godox X-T2N and X-Pro-N triggers (both have 3.5mm a sync socket). My problem is I know the trigger end has to end in a 3.5mm plug, but not what it is the camera end. It would be good to see a close-up of the cable. In the camera manual the image looks like a PC-Sync cable but the image is not good enough for me to tell.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on August 23, 2020, 10:03:28 AM
Quote from: spb-ch on August 23, 2020, 03:10:22 AM
What sizes either end is the cable for Flash Out? That cable comes with the 907x 50C and I am trying to work out if it will work with my Godox X-T2N and X-Pro-N triggers (both have 3.5mm a sync socket). My problem is I know the trigger end has to end in a 3.5mm plug, but not what it is the camera end. It would be good to see a close-up of the cable. In the camera manual the image looks like a PC-Sync cable but the image is not good enough for me to tell.

The Flash sync output cable has a 3.5mm mini-phono jack connection to the CFVII 50c back and ends in a standard male PC connector, much like what you find on a Hasselblad V system lens. The Flash sync input cable has a 2.5mm mini-phono jack input and a standard female PC, as would fit onto a V system lens's PC socket.

If your Godox and X-Pro-N triggers have a 3.5mm mini-phono plug input, you'll need a cable to connect that to a male PC connector. My RC flash triggers have a hot shoe, so I use a hot-shoe to PC adapter which ends in a female PC connector to connect them to the CFVII 50c.

G
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: spb-ch on August 23, 2020, 05:33:57 PM
Thanks for the info that makes it somewhat clearer.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: TimWright on September 18, 2020, 12:53:09 PM
I tried the OVF at store last weekend. I was a bit disappointed both with the distortion and the visibility of the frame line. I would have liked to see the quality up closer to that of the Leica external finders.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: meerec on September 18, 2020, 04:10:28 PM
Sounds disappointing  :-\ ???
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on September 18, 2020, 05:14:30 PM
My OVF and control grip (in Special Edition black finish) just shipped from the dealer today, I should have it next week. I'll report on what I think of the ergonomics and quality once it arrives.

G
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: latoyii on September 22, 2020, 05:34:55 PM
Same here. Mine are en route. Should have by Thursday. Anxious to try. Cheers—lt
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: 0luke1 on September 23, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
My left hand is paralyzed from a stroke 6 years ago, so my experience is different than most. That said, using a peak strap and the 907x handgrip is a great experience for me. I can pull the LCD screen up and hold the camera well with one hand, as well as use the handgrip controls, especially when supported by the strap (around my neck). I love the Hasselblad interface, but I like it better on the 907x.

The problem is the package is more cumbersome to carry around than my X1d ii, so the x1dii is staying in my (really) small artist and artisan camera bag. I use a RRS plate and a tiny RRS pocket tripod as a chest tripod for larger lenses.

But I'm thinking about getting a slightly larger bag so I can take the 907x out more often.



Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on September 23, 2020, 05:38:23 AM
Notice from UPS is that my grip and ovf will be here tomorrow sometime. Hopefully not after 6pm... LOL!

G
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: latoyii on September 24, 2020, 10:16:55 AM
Bingo!  Arrived today. Excited to go out for a test drive. Cheers--lt


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Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: spb-ch on September 24, 2020, 05:29:52 PM
ENJOY!
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on September 25, 2020, 05:48:21 PM
I received my control grip and OVF yesterday.

I find it works reasonably well. I've been testing it on the default setup. What I find is that I usually press the AF/MF button and turn AF off, then the AF-D button sets the focus. I then frame and release the shutter. Pressing the joy stick allows zooming at different levels for precision manual focusing on the LCD, and the control wheels then allow scrolling around the image same as with an X1D, as does using the joystick. This is just fine for me. The control wheels in capture mode work much the same as the control dial and shift control dial on the 907x body works. This is fine for me too.

I do wish the grip had a more ergonomic shape. To my fingers, it's just a little bit of a blocky thing to hang onto, rather different from the beautifully ergonomic grip on the X1D. Since I haven't tried the customizations yet, I have no opinions there yet. What I will be looking to see is if one of the buttons can be customized to bring up the ISO setting or Drive mode: I find those adjustments on the LCD when using the grip are a little awkward because I would normally use my right hand for them, and with the grip my right hand is already occupied. (I guess if I set AutoISO I wouldn't really need ISO setting, and I don't change drive mode that often in a hurry anyway, so maybe it's fine as is... :D)

The viewfinder does exactly what I expected. It's obviously useful mostly for the wider lenses and for more casual framing use. I like that the frame lines are somewhat dim and transparent .. they just shimmer a little as I look at the scene and don't get in the way. The center cross is a little big but again it doesn't really occlude the view, and it lets me target the AF focus system easily.

All in all, a worthwhile pair of accessories to have for hand-held shooting with the wider lenses. My PD neck strap works nicely with them fitted, and the provided tripod mount on the bottom of the grip's attachment bracket allows me to fit the PD camera plate there too without it getting in the way of much, since it is thin and unobtrusive. It turns the 907x into a more convenient eye level camera for hand-held shooting, which should prove nice for street and casual photos of friends and families, etc. If I pop the viewfinder off the bracket, the camera with the grip and bracket attached still fits in my Billingham L2 bag with no problems, rotated so the grip is up.

More when I get some more shots in with the setup.. :)

G
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: paratom on September 26, 2020, 07:21:52 AM
looks pretty cool. I wonder one thing, wouldnt it make sense to have the grip a little closer to the camera?
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: braver on September 26, 2020, 07:34:06 AM
Expecting mine next week...  I guess you need a gap to stick your fingers in?:)
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: spb-ch on September 27, 2020, 12:41:00 AM
Very good  braver "you need a gap to stick your fingers in"  8)
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: JCM-Photos on September 27, 2020, 07:03:41 AM
Is there a pouch to store the OVF when not mounted on the camera ?
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: spb-ch on September 27, 2020, 07:50:55 AM
I would hope so, everything else I have from Hasselblad comes with some form of a bag or pouch.

I have another question about the OVF, which if I understand it correctly slots into a cold-shoe. What is to stop one fitting a 2AA-battery powered flash-trigger into the cold shoe and connecting it with provided cable to the 'Flash Out' socket?
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: SrMi on September 27, 2020, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: JCM-Photos on September 27, 2020, 07:03:41 AM
Is there a pouch to store the OVF when not mounted on the camera ?

No pouch included. I store the OVF and the holder in the small box that came with the OVF.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on September 27, 2020, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: spb-ch on September 27, 2020, 07:50:55 AM
I would hope so, everything else I have from Hasselblad comes with some form ofa bag or pouch.

I have another question about the OVF, which if I understand it correctly slots into a cold-shoe. What is to stop one fitting a 2AA-battery powered flash-trigger into the cold shoe and connecting it with provided cable to the 'Flash Out' socket?

That works well. :)
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: JCM-Photos on September 28, 2020, 08:01:49 AM
I have just ordered the OVF it should be delivered in 5 days according Hasselblad.

I will rather use a hot shoe adapter with sync cable and not mount the hot shoe flash trigger with a PC cable directly on the OVF holder, according to Hasselblad recommandations.

I guess to be sure that no electric volatage from the trigger is applied to the camera housing.
Title: Re: 907X ergonomics and experience with OVF and grip
Post by: ramarren on September 28, 2020, 02:51:28 PM
Quote from: JCM-Photos on September 28, 2020, 08:01:49 AM
I have just ordered the OVF it should be delivered in 5 days according Hasselblad.

I will rather use a hot shoe adapter with sync cable and not mount the hot shoe flash trigger with a PC cable directly on the OVF holder, according to Hasselblad recommandations.

I guess to be sure that no electric volatage from the trigger is applied to the camera housing.

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If you have an RF flash trigger with a hot shoe connection, you need a hot-shoe to PC cable adapter to connect it to sync with the 907x, and that will itself isolate the flash from the OVF mount or camera body.

I wouldn't mount a hot shoe flash or hot shoe trigger directly on the OVF mount. The latching mechanism in it would short the flash or trigger, creating a permanent closed circuit, since it presses up from the bottom into a recess in the OVF itself. That's why Hasselblad says not to fit a flash on there. Many such flash units or triggers do not block the flash shoe terminal when you fit a PC sync cable.

The electrical flow will always take the shortest path, so the effect of fitting a hotshoe device on the OVF mount will simply be to close the circuit in the device. That can damage some devices, but it won't touch the camera.