Besides me, did anyone actually buy one?
Gordon
And for the record, no, I don't care about the free ones although giving away #1000 seems like a misstep.
I am not interested in the Earth Explorer Set for the following reasons:
- I already have an X2D,
- I have the X2D for photography, not for collecting,
- I like the anthracite better than the brown-green,
- I am not prepared to pay this extra for a color and a limited number,
- I am not interested in the 55mm from the set.
Sorry
I am just busy doing some snaps around the house and start a YT channel 8)
Quote from: flash on October 30, 2024, 06:39:40 PMBesides me, did anyone actually buy one?
Gordon
And for the record, no, I don't care about the free ones although giving away #1000 seems like a misstep.
No, I have better things to spend money on
Quote from: flash on October 30, 2024, 06:39:40 PMBesides me, did anyone actually buy one?
Gordon
And for the record, no, I don't care about the free ones although giving away #1000 seems like a misstep.
Yes. I wanted a second body, and like that the second one looks different. Also, the lenses seem to have a bit less rotational play with the new X2D than with my first one, which was one of the first to be delivered in the USA.
Earth Explorer Limited Edition
Nordic Tundra Brown Colourway
Unique Identification and Serial Number
Exclusive Startup Screen
Coordinated Limited Edition Strap
OH WOW! a special strap, different paint and a special startup screen really !!!!!!!!!
No, microchips cannot be legendary :)
Quote from: flash on October 30, 2024, 06:39:40 PMBesides me, did anyone actually buy one?
Gordon
Yep, I bought one. It arrived two days ago. It's absolutely gorgeous. I didn't buy it as a collectible however. Electronic goods usually depreciate in value. I bought it to use.
Addressing some of the previous comments:
- I already have an X2D (which I will likely sell),
- I have the Earth Explorer X2D for photography, not for collecting,
- I like the Tundra Brown better than black,
- I was prepared to pay extra for a color and a limited number,
- I am interested in the 55mm from the set (and will sell the nearly new 55mm that I already have),
- I spend money on my hobbies and don't judge the spending of others.
I'm not bothered by Hasselblad giving some units to YouTubers. It's targeted advertising pure and simple in today's world of video advertising on social media. And it's cheap.
Joe
Quote from: JoeC on October 31, 2024, 03:43:27 AMQuote from: flash on October 30, 2024, 06:39:40 PMBesides me, did anyone actually buy one?
Gordon
Yep, I bought one. It arrived two days ago. It's absolutely gorgeous. I didn't buy it as a collectible however. Electronic goods usually depreciate in value. I bought it to use.
Addressing some of the previous comments:
- I already have an X2D (which I will likely sell),
- I have the Earth Explorer X2D for photography, not for collecting,
- I like the Tundra Brown better than black,
- I was prepared to pay extra for a color and a limited number,
- I am interested in the 55mm from the set (and will sell the nearly new 55mm that I already have),
- I spend money on my hobbies and don't judge the spending of others.
I'm not bothered by Hasselblad giving some units to YouTubers. It's targeted advertising pure and simple in today's world of video advertising on social media. And it's cheap.
Joe
then it's right for you
For my part, I would have bought the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.
Quote from: sanglier on October 31, 2024, 08:36:47 AMFor my part, I would have bought the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.
I already had the 55mm. The one in the kit is slightly better than my original, well used, copy, for some reason. I do mean slightly. But it's there.
I was going to sell a body and the 55 (I have three now) but K has said she wants to try it. So I've set her up with a small kit. 28, 38, 55, and the older 90. I know she likes the files but I reckon it's 50/50 if she'll keep the camera. Possibly, she'll settle on just a couple of lenses. If she doesn't like it I'll get my 28mm back. :)
Gordon
congrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
i have buy the Earth explorer Edition. That was for me the first hassel that i buy ( only Nikon before )
Special editions are always easier to resell. But I bought it to use it. I love these colors.
I love the X2D, it has everything I always expected from Nikon and never had. It only has the essentials, and it's perfect. The AF is not fast and may not suit everyone, but for my use it is more than enough. I hesitated for a long time with Leica, which has a very large and excellent range of optics, but from my point of view Hassel is better in terms of camera body
Quote from: Seb76400 on October 31, 2024, 10:17:48 PMi have buy the Earth explorer Edition. That was for me the first hassel that i buy ( only Nikon before )
Special editions are always easier to resell. But I bought it to use it. I love these colors.
I love the X2D, it has everything I always expected from Nikon and never had. It only has the essentials, and it's perfect. The AF is not fast and may not suit everyone, but for my use it is more than enough. I hesitated for a long time with Leica, which has a very large and excellent range of optics, but from my point of view Hassel is better in terms of camera body
Congrats. Enjoy your camera.
Gordon
I paid mine since i thought i was ready to commit myself to hasselblad, i had a used X2D, it was flawless for over a year prior, enjoyed so much that i invested in cfv100c considering its smaller form factor and i could pair with my 503cw
There comes the tundra, was told some weeks before it was leak, my mind fighting, i liked the black, but i love a tundra safariish color 😋, the rest is history
There is something intriguing about how the shape of the camera reveals itself in Tundra Brown. But, alas, I already have an X2D and a 907x 100c (both with over 15,000 frames shot), so I rendered the Earth Explorer instead. See it here:
https://www.behance.net/gallery/210897067/Limited-Edition-Renders
I'll get one in a few years when it's £1000
Quote from: CanNik on November 04, 2024, 07:23:03 AMI'll get one in a few years when it's £1000
X2D was released a little over 2 years ago so there's that...
No. I bought a standard one two weeks before the EE was announced.
Quote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
Quote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
that used the be the case until recently, CRK is back, with increased price, more retailers like Photo Warehouse can now sell Hasselblad.
What's f-ed up is CRK also sells through their website...in a way they are competing with retailers...
Have a browse on their website, their stock level indicator seems very details, tells you which lens coming on what date..
As a kit it should cost less, not more.
Plus black is always and by far the best color for a camera :-)
I am 100% happy so many people change their cameras like they change underwear, it means I get 100% perfect used gear at a fraction of the new price 8) 8) 8) 8)
When the EE2 comes out get that sell the EE1 and Ill buy it 1/4 the cost
Quote from: Orokaj on November 06, 2024, 10:01:04 AMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
that used the be the case until recently, CRK is back, with increased price, more retailers like Photo Warehouse can now sell Hasselblad.
What's f-ed up is CRK also sells through their website...in a way they are competing with retailers...
Have a browse on their website, their stock level indicator seems very details, tells you which lens coming on what date..
I'm still trying to find out what's going on. I bought my Tundra kit directly from D1 Store. I hadn't looked at the CRK website for a few months. It's listed as coming there and they have some limited stock of a few things. Plus most of the dates for the next batch of out of stock items.
I don't know if they have regained the distributorship, are dealers or are sharing distributorship with D1. It's a mess to be honest.
I have emailed D1 but not heard back. I did also ask about the 75mm so maybe they won't reply until it's released. Generally they do get back to me pretty quickly though, since I shoot both Hasselblad and fly the Inspire drone.
CRK are charging AUD600 more for the Earth Explorer than I paid, so I kind of hope that D! are still around.
Gordon
Quote from: Orokaj on November 06, 2024, 10:01:04 AMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
that used the be the case until recently, CRK is back, with increased price, more retailers like Photo Warehouse can now sell Hasselblad.
What's f-ed up is CRK also sells through their website...in a way they are competing with retailers...
Have a browse on their website, their stock level indicator seems very details, tells you which lens coming on what date..
Well they still don't list Hasselblad as one of their brands and Progear told me less than 2 months ago that they were importing Hasselblad directly from Sweden. Photo & Video also confirmed that to me even more recently.
I'll call CRK next week and ask them.
I don't understand why the case is not sold without the lens at the same price as the black one.
Quote from: sanglier on November 10, 2024, 08:25:32 AMI don't understand why the case is not sold without the lens at the same price as the black one.
Because it's a limited edition run designed to add some extra funds into Hasselblad. Possible down the line they'll release a *normal* brown one, just to piss off the people who paid extra for this one.
They kind of did the same thing with the X1D 4116 edition and other manufacturers do this. Mainly Leica. HB are basically doing a full copy of Leica so this was inevitable.
Gordon
Quote from: flash on November 10, 2024, 10:33:08 AMQuote from: sanglier on November 10, 2024, 08:25:32 AMI don't understand why the case is not sold without the lens at the same price as the black one.
Because it's a limited edition run designed to add some extra funds into Hasselblad. Possible down the line they'll release a *normal* brown one, just to piss off the people who paid extra for this one.
They kind of did the same thing with the X1D 4116 edition and other manufacturers do this. Mainly Leica. HB are basically doing a full copy of Leica so this was inevitable.
Gordon
is the brown one actual paint? if so it shouldn't chip easily like the normal ones?
Does the paint still come off on the X2D, or has this been finally fixed?
I've not had any paint issues with my X2D's. I have one from release day and one from about 4 months later plus my Earth Explorer. The original one definitely has signs of wear and tear but I carry my cameras on a strap or belt clip. Not usually in a bag. I've dropped my original onto cobblestones in Venice and it has a small ding in the corner. It's been to 10 countries on 4 continents. Taken over 15000 frames. It's well used and I have not anything more than I would expect from this type of use. Still works perfectly too.
Maybe there's some quality control. But all my bodies are fine. Not like my old XPan which seemed to be allergic to its paint. :)
Gordon
Quote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.
I got this direct from my contact at D1.
Gordon
Quote from: flash on November 12, 2024, 09:19:18 AMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.
I got this direct from my contact at D1.
Gordon
Thanks for the update. The distribution of Hasselblad gear in AU does seem to be a real mess. Hopefully CRK can do something better than DJI/D1, but let's wait and see (again) :-)
Lars
Quote from: Larsb on November 12, 2024, 06:52:41 PMQuote from: flash on November 12, 2024, 09:19:18 AMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.
I got this direct from my contact at D1.
Gordon
Thanks for the update. The distribution of Hasselblad gear in AU does seem to be a real mess. Hopefully CRK can do something better than DJI/D1, but let's wait and see (again) :-)
Lars
They sure did by increasing prices when AUSNZ already has the one of highest retail prices
Quote from: Orokaj on November 13, 2024, 09:13:25 AMQuote from: Larsb on November 12, 2024, 06:52:41 PMQuote from: flash on November 12, 2024, 09:19:18 AMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 10:05:56 PMQuote from: Soozz on November 05, 2024, 02:15:21 PMQuote from: Kiwimac on November 05, 2024, 09:25:04 AMQuote from: Orokaj on October 31, 2024, 12:43:48 PMcongrats Gordon on the earth explorer. price is jacked up for nz, under the new(old) dealer CRK now. 26k nzd.
Its a good to have for me but given the availability(and price difference) i am not getting it.
I thought Progear were the NZ importers now?
They are the dealers not the importers.
Importers are the wholesale side brings products into Nz and sends to the retailers ie Progear. Who were the only retail store to sell Hasselblad products in Nz to customers.
So when products come to Nz generally it'll come though a wholesalers who will sell to retailers to sell the products to us the consumer.
Normally only companies can buy from wholesalers, consumers can not in Nz.
When companies sell wholesale to public it will always be though there retail division.
Hope that makes sense.
Wholesalers and companies will have there set prices for retailers to sell at.
I hope that helps a bit
I'm afraid it doesn't. CRK are not the importer or distributor as of last year, either in NZ or Australia. They were, but Progear have told me that they now deal direct with Hasselblad Sweden.
I can confirm that CRK are again the official importers of Hasselblad to Australia and New Zealand. D1 will still carry and supply Hasselblad and they have some other plans but the actual stock will flow through CRK. Transition is in effect now and should be completed by Christmas.
I got this direct from my contact at D1.
Gordon
Thanks for the update. The distribution of Hasselblad gear in AU does seem to be a real mess. Hopefully CRK can do something better than DJI/D1, but let's wait and see (again) :-)
Lars
They sure did by increasing prices when AUSNZ already has the one of highest retail prices
Yep. The Earth Explorer kit went up $500!!. Glad I got mine early. Now it feels like a bargain. hahahahaha!
Gordon
When I purchased my 38v lens last year, I paid over $7k, then a bit later (around the time I heard that CRK were no longer the distributors in AU), it dropped by AUD$1,000 to around $6K (roughly). It seemed like a coincidence that it corresponded with CRK no longer being the distributor. I wonder if the prices will go up again for the Hasselblad lenses by $1K. I'm not sure that having CRK in AU as the distributor is necessarily a good thing.
CRK currently list it for 6230.
Hasselblad page is here:
https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad
For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.
Gordon
Quote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 12:29:30 PMCRK currently list it for 6230.
Hasselblad page is here:
https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad
For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.
Gordon
Thanks Gordon. I just checked out CRK's website for Hasselblad gear, and I must say that it is a much better effort than what DJI/D1 did over the last year. The website includes not just the prices, but also the ETA, which is a considerable improvement.
Looks like the 75p will be available in 2 days (according to the website), and I am looking forward to receiving mine.
cheers,
Lars
Quote from: Larsb on November 13, 2024, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 12:29:30 PMCRK currently list it for 6230.
Hasselblad page is here:
https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad
For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.
Gordon
Thanks Gordon. I just checked out CRK's website for Hasselblad gear, and I must say that it is a much better effort than what DJI/D1 did over the last year. The website includes not just the prices, but also the ETA, which is a considerable improvement.
Looks like the 75p will be available in 2 days (according to the website), and I am looking forward to receiving mine.
cheers,
Lars
They've always done this. Take with a bit of a grain of salt. I have found, historically that CRK generally needs an extra day or three to get the logistics sorted and ship. I have had a cash account with them for nearly a decade, so have a bit of experience with them. Although it's been over a year since I purchased from them.
My 75 was ordered from D1 and they say shipping should be the same time as from CRK. We will see. I'm not in a rush. This one is mostly for K to try as I'm building her a small kit (28, 38 and 75) to see if she like the system. She shoots Leica Q's and Canons now.
Gordon
Quote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: Larsb on November 13, 2024, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: flash on November 13, 2024, 12:29:30 PMCRK currently list it for 6230.
Hasselblad page is here:
https://crkphotoimaging.com.au/_brands/hasselblad
For those outside Oz our listed prices always include taxes. By law.
Gordon
Thanks Gordon. I just checked out CRK's website for Hasselblad gear, and I must say that it is a much better effort than what DJI/D1 did over the last year. The website includes not just the prices, but also the ETA, which is a considerable improvement.
Looks like the 75p will be available in 2 days (according to the website), and I am looking forward to receiving mine.
cheers,
Lars
They've always done this. Take with a bit of a grain of salt. I have found, historically that CRK generally needs an extra day or three to get the logistics sorted and ship. I have had a cash account with them for nearly a decade, so have a bit of experience with them. Although it's been over a year since I purchased from them.
My 75 was ordered from D1 and they say shipping should be the same time as from CRK. We will see. I'm not in a rush. This one is mostly for K to try as I'm building her a small kit (28, 38 and 75) to see if she like the system. She shoots Leica Q's and Canons now.
Gordon
Thanks Gordon - an extra day or three is fine and no worries for me, but an extra several months would be a different situation. Anyway, good to see that there is a Website improvement, but hope the prices will not go up too much, which is, at least, my concern with CRK.
I ordered my 75p from CameraPro, but likewise, not in a huge rush to get it. I was hoping to go to Perth in January, but looks like my boss won't allow that, so I will be lucky if I can even get a Sunday off in the next 6 months
Lars
I bought one. It arrived yesterday. Cant wait to create images with it along with the 907x
This is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)
Quote from: flash on October 31, 2024, 09:04:42 AMQuote from: sanglier on October 31, 2024, 08:36:47 AMFor my part, I would have bought the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.
I already had the 55mm. The one in the kit is slightly better than my original, well used, copy, for some reason. I do mean slightly. But it's there.
I was going to sell a body and the 55 (I have three now) but K has said she wants to try it. So I've set her up with a small kit. 28, 38, 55, and the older 90. I know she likes the files but I reckon it's 50/50 if she'll keep the camera. Possibly, she'll settle on just a couple of lenses. If she doesn't like it I'll get my 28mm back. :)
Gordon
Quote from: acg69 on February 26, 2025, 05:13:59 AMThis is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)
No two lenses are the same. The question is HOW different are they on average (depends, of course, on what your measure of closeness is). Certain errors seem to be more common - decentering, for instance. It's easier to manufacture precise glass elements than it is to assemble them in perfect alignment. If every unit were tested before shipping, this would be much less of a problem. It's obviously not optimal, or they would do it.
Quote from: acg69 on February 26, 2025, 05:13:59 AMThis is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)
Quote from: flash on October 31, 2024, 09:04:42 AMQuote from: sanglier on October 31, 2024, 08:36:47 AMFor my part, I would have bought the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.
I already had the 55mm. The one in the kit is slightly better than my original, well used, copy, for some reason. I do mean slightly. But it's there.
I was going to sell a body and the 55 (I have three now) but K has said she wants to try it. So I've set her up with a small kit. 28, 38, 55, and the older 90. I know she likes the files but I reckon it's 50/50 if she'll keep the camera. Possibly, she'll settle on just a couple of lenses. If she doesn't like it I'll get my 28mm back. :)
Gordon
What he said... haha.
Copy variation is a thing with any manufactured product. It's certainly a thing in lenses. I used to check multiple lenses and select the one I liked, when I worked as a photographer. If you build a good relationship with your dealer they may allow this. I've also sent brand new lenses back for exchange, more than once because they weren't right. I check and evaluate every new lens I receive. If it's good, I rarely test it again, un less something jumps out at me. I do this with all my gear. An old habit I got while I was working full time.
As for *slightly*. I can see a small difference when I do direct side by side testing. But only side by side. If I put a dozen images on a table and I didn't know which shot was from which lens, I doubt I could tell the difference. The new lens has *slightly* more bite. Neither is decentered. Both are excellent. Just a bit different. A tiny bit. The kind of difference you might see with a good UV filter on the front of a lens. So very slight indeed. But it's there and I noticed it.
I have sold quite a few of my prints off the original copy. It's a perfectly lovely lens. So is the newer one.
Gordon
Quote from: MGrayson on February 26, 2025, 06:39:09 AM... If every unit were tested before shipping, this would be much less of a problem. ...
Yes, absolutely. But is that not something I would expect at that price? None of my "old" (Zeiss) Hasselblad lenses are de-centered. QA is part of product quality. A de-centered lens leaving the factory is a no go for a precision product.
Quote from: Georg Kovalcik on February 28, 2025, 01:52:10 AMQuote from: MGrayson on February 26, 2025, 06:39:09 AM... If every unit were tested before shipping, this would be much less of a problem. ...
Yes, absolutely. But is that not something I would expect at that price? None of my "old" (Zeiss) Hasselblad lenses are de-centered. QA is part of product quality. A de-centered lens leaving the factory is a no go for a precision product.
Yes, I very much would expect it! Alas for reality.
Now I see what you mean by "slightly". I do realize how the manufacturing process and related tolerances can affect lenses, but one would hope that at this price level and quality, any variations between samples would be imperceptible. At least I would hope so:)
Quote from: flash on February 27, 2025, 10:10:49 AMQuote from: acg69 on February 26, 2025, 05:13:59 AMThis is interesting... Why would one copy of the lens be better than another? Surely one must be faulty then and for the kind of money paid, this is unacceptable. Also, what do you mean by "slightly better" - in what respect? Thanks:)
Quote from: flash on October 31, 2024, 09:04:42 AMQuote from: sanglier on October 31, 2024, 08:36:47 AMFor my part, I would have bought the Earth Explorer X2D, but I already have the 55 mm.
I already had the 55mm. The one in the kit is slightly better than my original, well used, copy, for some reason. I do mean slightly. But it's there.
I was going to sell a body and the 55 (I have three now) but K has said she wants to try it. So I've set her up with a small kit. 28, 38, 55, and the older 90. I know she likes the files but I reckon it's 50/50 if she'll keep the camera. Possibly, she'll settle on just a couple of lenses. If she doesn't like it I'll get my 28mm back. :)
Gordon
What he said... haha.
Copy variation is a thing with any manufactured product. It's certainly a thing in lenses. I used to check multiple lenses and select the one I liked, when I worked as a photographer. If you build a good relationship with your dealer they may allow this. I've also sent brand new lenses back for exchange, more than once because they weren't right. I check and evaluate every new lens I receive. If it's good, I rarely test it again, un less something jumps out at me. I do this with all my gear. An old habit I got while I was working full time.
As for *slightly*. I can see a small difference when I do direct side by side testing. But only side by side. If I put a dozen images on a table and I didn't know which shot was from which lens, I doubt I could tell the difference. The new lens has *slightly* more bite. Neither is decentered. Both are excellent. Just a bit different. A tiny bit. The kind of difference you might see with a good UV filter on the front of a lens. So very slight indeed. But it's there and I noticed it.
I have sold quite a few of my prints off the original copy. It's a perfectly lovely lens. So is the newer one.
Gordon
hasselblad still does not decide to sell the explorer version without the 55 mm lens. Too bad.