I just received the XH adapter and tested all of my older lenses on the X1D.....only my 24mm lens worked...the other lenses (35,50,80,100,150,300) caused the camera to report that no lens was attached.... The other issue with the 24mm lens was that focus peaking did work but auto zoom did not. I'd be interested to hear about other peoples experiences. I spoke to Eric Peterson and he is looking into this issue.
Hi,
Can I check what is the firmware version of your camera? Firmware notes say that it needs to be minimum 1.15.0.
Thanks.
(I have an XH adapter on order too...since October last year...)
The camera is on the latest firmware...1.17.0
Even I can't believe this but here's the update....I received an email from Eric Peterson at Hasselblad who asked for the serial numbers and firmware rev of the lenses that did not work...I used my H4X camera to retrieve that information and then did a final test to confirm that these lenses did not work with the X1D...in each case the camera now recognized the lens......AutoZoom did not work but Focus Peaking was OK.
The only change I made was to read the firmware on the lens which I wouldn't expect to have any impact but all lenses now work with the X1D.
The "no lens" error usually comes up when there's not a good connection between body/lens I'm guessing first time round they didn't quite click into place...
I did a bit of testing over the weekend with my H series 50mmII, 80mm, 100mm, 150mm, 210m and 300mm lenses on the X1D. I shot the 50mmII, the 80mm and 100mm lenses side by side with the X1D 45mm and 90mm lenses. A few, preliminary comments.
1. My tests confirmed for me just how good the X1D lenses are. While the HC50mmII lens is, to me, the best of the H series lenses I have ever used, the 45mm X1D lens outperforms it in the corners. Very close in the center. The 90mm X1D lens is way better on the X1D than the 80mm or the 100mm H series lenses.
2. The 150mm, the 210mm and the 300mm H lenses are very good with the X1D. Based upon what I see from the XCD lenses released so far, I expect that the XCD equivalents, when they ultimately are released, will outperform them, but it is great having these H series lenses available now to fill out the system.
3. The X1D firmware has not been updated yet to allow AF with the H series lenses. That is supposedly coming. However, focus peaking and magnified live view ARE available and work well.
4. The 210mm lens should be used with a lens collar for the XH Adapter, but Hasselblad, inexplicably, did not ship the adapter with one. Strange. An aftermarket one is available from ppl.de in Germany. The 300mm lens has a collar built into it. Here is a photo showing it with a RRS plate on the foot. The 300m lens is a 240mm equivalent in FF 35mm.
5. Both focus peaking and magnified live view worked fine with my HC lenses. However, because AF does not presently work with the HC lenses, it appears that there is no way to select the focus point in magnified live view. I had to move the camera to get the live view focus where I wanted it.
6. Nick is right about the need to be sure that the adapter and the HC lenses are properly connected. A couple of times got errors but they cleared when I checked the connection.
Correction on #5. If you activate magnified live view focusing by pressing the * Soft Button, you can use your finger on the LCD to move around the area that is magnified. It's a kludge, but better than nothing.
Quote from: David Rosenzweig on July 21, 2017, 10:11:38 PM
I just received the XH adapter and tested all of my older lenses on the X1D.....only my 24mm lens worked...the other lenses (35,50,80,100,150,300) caused the camera to report that no lens was attached.... The other issue with the 24mm lens was that focus peaking did work but auto zoom did not. I'd be interested to hear about other peoples experiences. I spoke to Eric Peterson and he is looking into this issue.
David,
Thanks for sending us the serial numbers and firmware versions of your lenses. I'm glad that the Auto-Zoom and Focus Peaking are each now working; I look forward to informing you when AF using the XH adapter is available.
Sincerely,
Eric Peterson
Field Sales Specialist
Hasselblad
I've not been able to get Auto Zoom to work with any of my older Hasselblad lenses...although Focus Peaking does work ....for those who have found that Auto Zoom does work with your older lenses could you comment on the firmware rev of those lenses and action you've taken to get that function work( if any other than selecting Auto Zoom)
It doesn't work by just putting it into MF and turning the focus ring. You have to invoke it by pressing the middle soft button next to the LCD screen.
Howard...thank you so much...worked perfectly.
David
Quote from: David Rosenzweig on August 01, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
Howard...thank you so much...worked perfectly.
David
Your welcome. I actually don't know why it doesn't work just by turning the focusing ring, but it must have something to do with the fact that the HC lenses are not focus by wire.
Quote from: David Rosenzweig on August 01, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
I've not been able to get Auto Zoom to work with any of my older Hasselblad lenses...although Focus Peaking does work ....for those who have found that Auto Zoom does work with your older lenses could you comment on the firmware rev of those lenses and action you've taken to get that function work( if any other than selecting Auto Zoom)
David,
The issue you're experiencing will be resolved with a future firmware update. The update will be possible for existing HC/HCD lenses with firmware version 1.18.0 and those produced from approximately 2013 forward.
Sincerely,
Eric Peterson
Field Sales Specialist
Hasselblad
That's just great. All of my HC/HCD lenses were purchased before 2013. Sad.
Quote from: HBIEVP on August 02, 2017, 02:59:25 AM
Quote from: David Rosenzweig on August 01, 2017, 10:04:11 AM
I've not been able to get Auto Zoom to work with any of my older Hasselblad lenses...although Focus Peaking does work ....for those who have found that Auto Zoom does work with your older lenses could you comment on the firmware rev of those lenses and action you've taken to get that function work( if any other than selecting Auto Zoom)
David,
The issue you're experiencing will be resolved with a future firmware update. The update will be possible for existing HC/HCD lenses with firmware version 1.18.0 and those produced from approximately 2013 forward.
Sincerely,
Eric Peterson
Field Sales Specialist
Hasselblad
What t will be resolved by 1.18? That turning the focusing ring in MF does not invoke magnified live view? That there is no AF?
Can you give us a heads up on the new features you HOPE to include in 1.18?
Thanks.
Since the adapter, so far, does nothing outside what is internal to the camera, what took it so long to come to market? And, B&H and Dodd haven't begun to receive shipments yet, so I am assuming it has not been released by Hasselblad.
A few examples in the wild. I have one on my shelf.
Bob
auto zoom does indeed not work with the XH adapter even on newer HC/HCD lenses. But if you press the star button on the right side of the lcd it goes to 100% on live view and also by looking through the EVF. Next, I am gonna to test the combination with 4.8/24mm and HTS.
I'm experimenting with the adapter and the HC 210mm lens. My experiment was a test of how difficult it would be to manually focus a fast moving, twitchy...bird. With a rubber lens hood attached, and the hood pressed against the double-pane kitchen window closest to the bird feeder, here are two test shots.
(https://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joecolson.com%2Fphotos%2FColson_170808_B1020773-FrameShop.jpg&hash=fbe330b3b8d143111a5350c23dd6ecb58318cd99)
(https://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joecolson.com%2Fphotos%2FColson_170808_B1020774-FrameShop.jpg&hash=ed593b9265d94680108e411577e58a6dc5b2d9ff)
These are significant crops from the full frames and show the power of having cameras nowadays with high-megapixel, high-DR sensors. No tripod, no IBIS/VR/ISS/OSS. Just a young-at-heart old guy enjoying new equipment (and birds). I used +50 Luminance Noise Reduction in LR and some sharpening. The OOC camera WB was right on. And highlights on the goldfinch, which I usually blow, weren't in this case.
Joe
Great job, Joe. ISO 3200 blows me away!
Nice one Joe.
Quote from: HBIEVP on August 02, 2017, 02:59:25 AM
David,
The issue you're experiencing will be resolved with a future firmware update. The update will be possible for existing HC/HCD lenses with firmware version 1.18.0 and those produced from approximately 2013 forward.
Sincerely,
Eric Peterson
Field Sales Specialist
Hasselblad
How can I determine whether my HC lenses were produced after 2012? Serial #?
Joe
Quote from: JoeC on August 17, 2017, 07:05:02 AM
Quote from: HBIEVP on August 02, 2017, 02:59:25 AM
David,
The issue you're experiencing will be resolved with a future firmware update. The update will be possible for existing HC/HCD lenses with firmware version 1.18.0 and those produced from approximately 2013 forward.
Sincerely,
Eric Peterson
Field Sales Specialist
Hasselblad
How can I determine whether my HC lenses were produced after 2012? Serial #?
Joe
Originally there was a a simple two letter date code before the serial number for the V series then "Modern" Hasselblad numbering added a two character product code before the date code, thus 7DVS12345 identifies a 100mm HC lens code 7D dated 2010, VS is the date code see http://hasselbladhistorical.eu/HT/HTDating.aspx
Quote from: ChrisL on August 17, 2017, 08:10:56 PM
Quote from: JoeC on August 17, 2017, 07:05:02 AM
Quote from: HBIEVP on August 02, 2017, 02:59:25 AM
David,
The issue you're experiencing will be resolved with a future firmware update. The update will be possible for existing HC/HCD lenses with firmware version 1.18.0 and those produced from approximately 2013 forward.
Sincerely,
Eric Peterson
Field Sales Specialist
Hasselblad
How can I determine whether my HC lenses were produced after 2012? Serial #?
Joe
Originally there was a a simple two letter date code before the serial number for the V series then "Modern" Hasselblad numbering added a two character product code before the date code, thus 7DVS12345 identifies a 100mm HC lens code 7D dated 2010, VS is the date code see http://hasselbladhistorical.eu/HT/HTDating.aspx
Thanks Chris. That helped a lot.
Joe
Unfortunately 80mm 2.8 (version 17.0.0) is not detected in x1d ii with normal XH adapter.
Quote from: BasicLearner on July 11, 2023, 04:11:51 PM
Unfortunately 80mm 2.8 (version 17.0.0) is not detected in x1d ii with normal XH adapter.
To my knowledge the XH Adapter should allow to trigger the lens shutter and to control the aperture. AF won't work, though.
Use an 80mm with XH and XH0.8 all the time with ancient FW# on an X1DII - works fine, recognized perfectly, etc., - just no AF. Same with 28, 50II, 210, etc.