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Title: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 04, 2018, 12:28:51 PM
After few month of trial and error my customer/friend and myself finally have a beautifully working release cable for X1D. We are testing it now for 4 days and it is working perfectly. I am using it as well for connecting my SEITZ Roundshot fully automated VR Drive II with X1D and system works perfect. Now all users of Seitz VR Drive and X1D will be able to take beautiful panoramas with X1D.
   Please be advised, that my gizmo (release cable) was not tested or approved by Hasselblad, therefore using it MIGHT effect your warranty. I am not concern about my X1D warranty, as I need release cable more than warranty. All my VR Drive customers could not use X1D for panoramas, as there was no connecting cable available. I have now ordered X1D - Seitz VR Drive connecting cables from factory in Switzerland. ETA was not announced yet.
    Attached find a jpeg file with information where to order the 2 pieces needed - for a total of $4.28 (this is not a typo). I decided to use adapter cable (2.5mm to 3.5mm) with 90 degree  3.5mm  plug connecting to audio port on X1D
If you need more info, please email me on  lorberpeter@gmail.com or call my cell phone 561 289 0899, bus 561 361 0031 -Monday to Friday 9am to 5 pm.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: sog1927 on September 04, 2018, 01:21:19 PM
Well, I certainly feel dumb. I really didn't expect the audio jack to fire the camera, but I just stuck a 3.5mm plug in the upper port, shorted it, and the camera fired. I really expected this  to be much more complicated and require a USB connection. The camera seems to be no worse for wear.

Thanks, Peter!
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 04, 2018, 01:29:37 PM
You and everyone else is welcome.
Enjoy, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: bdp on September 04, 2018, 01:44:16 PM
Well done Peter. I don't own an X1D but I'm sure this will be very popular.

What baffles me is why Hasselblad didn't come up with this if it is that easy and cheap! Everyone has been clamouring for it since the X1D was born.

Ben
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 04, 2018, 01:58:09 PM
Thank you. Checked your web site. Great photography. Keep it up, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 04, 2018, 04:35:01 PM
Thanks Peter for the wired remote tip. This is something that most of the X1D users have been requesting from Hasselblad ever since the camera was released.  Perhaps the geniuses at the factory as well as in New Jersey would take the time to test your remote and verify that it will not harm the camera. It really shouldn't be rocket science - who knows maybe they will retain you as a consultant? If the fix is as simple, harmless and effective as it seems, the Hasselblad folks ought to be very embarrassed!!!! Thanks again!
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 04, 2018, 11:40:18 PM
Thanks for the email. Yes, it is simple and works.
Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: JoeC on September 05, 2018, 12:29:41 AM
Peter is a highly respected Hasselblad dealer in Boca Raton, FL and I have come to know him since 2016 when I was evaluating the X1D for purchase. Peter has been enormously helpful since then helping me, and the X1D user community, with tips, workshops and customer guidance and support.

Peter, I'm impressed. You've "broken the code", and provided us with something we've been seeking since the X1D's inception. It's simple, cheap and, most of all, it works. Whether or not it affects the warranty is inconsequential to many of us. So thank you for your experimentation and sharing a solution with us. Hasselblad owes you thanks as well.

Joe
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 05, 2018, 01:01:32 AM
Hi Joe, thanks for the nice comment. It is appreciated. Enjoy the release and have a great day, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BillW on September 05, 2018, 01:38:14 AM
Wish someone from Hasselblad would comment on this.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 03:00:01 AM
I would also expect Hasselblad to provide input of this issue. It is very reassuring  to know that Peter is an experienced Hasselblad Dealer and that certainly that should add an enormous amount of credibility to the issue. I am concerned with warranty coverage because of the variety of failures associated with the X1D. If my lens should stop functioning as in the case of the 120mm macro lens or the camera body stops function for whatever strange reason and require a trip to the factory, I feel that the warranty protection is essential. The cost of out of warranty service can be extremely expensive for both parts and labor.

I hope that Hasselblad gets serious about the importance of the remote release for the X1D and take professional responsibility for addressing the issue instead of the low level of customer technical support that they  been demonstrated to date. Hasselblad designed the X1D and hopefully they have the technical competence to evaluate this issue. Based upon the user base demand for a remote release ever since the camera was release I find it disgusting that the situation has gotten so out of hand.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 05, 2018, 03:13:52 AM
I see many users of X1D are exited as I am about this release cable. I also understand some of you are concerned about harming your X1D. If you are concerned enough and want to try it on my camera, I have a workshop in South Florida in October. You can register on my website: https://www.peterlorber.com/key-west-south-beach-photography-wo . You can use my camera and  panoramic Roundshot VR Drive II connected to X1D with the cable to your heart's content.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: hcubell on September 05, 2018, 04:56:17 AM
Quote from: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 03:00:01 AM
I would also expect Hasselblad to provide input of this issue. It is very reassuring  to know that Peter is an experienced Hasselblad Dealer and that certainly that should add an enormous amount of credibility to the issue. I am concerned with warranty coverage because of the variety of failures associated with the X1D. If my lens should stop functioning as in the case of the 120mm macro lens or the camera body stops function for whatever strange reason and require a trip to the factory, I feel that the warranty protection is essential. The cost of out of warranty service can be extremely expensive for both parts and labor.

I hope that Hasselblad gets serious about the importance of the remote release for the X1D and take professional responsibility for addressing the issue instead of the low level of customer technical support that they  been demonstrated to date. Hasselblad designed the X1D and hopefully they have the technical competence to evaluate this issue. Based upon the user base demand for a remote release ever since the camera was release I find it disgusting that the situation has gotten so out of hand.

I am not sure what they can say at this point. If they agree that it works and won't harm the camera, then the next question is why Hasslelbad itself has had over 2 years to figure this out and hasn't issued its own "official" cable release. This a pretty low tech device.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: sog1927 on September 05, 2018, 06:15:01 AM
It seems to me that Hasselblad really missed the boat here: they could have built a dedicated release out of 4-5 dollars worth of parts (retail!) and sold it for $150 or so (the price of the corresponding release for the Leica S).
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 06:41:11 AM
In my expereince with Canon Cameras the use of a wired handheld push button switch is a common approach to remote shutter releasing. What is so unusual about the X1D is that the camera body jack was defined by Hasselblad to be for headphone operation with no mention of remote shutter release. It seems strange that a headphone jack would have any relationshio with the shuitter.
Maybe during the early X1D design phase the camera was planned for handheld operation such that no one anticipated the need for a remote shutter release - I guess we are just lucky that a thread hole was included in camera body for tripod attachment. Perhaps as the design developed some clever designer realized the need for a remote release and modified the headphone jack but forgot to tell the others on the design team or perhaps he was fired for insubordination or who knows? The point is that the headphone jack seems to have the ability to support remote shutter operation. As users of the X1D we need to figure out to gain the cooperation of Hasselblad. We have told these folks how much we want a remote release and although it appear that ssomeone within the Hasselblad Design Team has provided a means through the headphone jack Hasselblad refuses to acknowledge. Hasselblad needs to explain the function of the headphone jack and provide assurance that they will not cancel coverage if it is used fro remote shutter operation.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: hcubell on September 05, 2018, 07:59:46 AM
Quote from: galoubet on September 05, 2018, 07:27:00 AM
It's always worth hanging on to old equipment; you just never know when it'll come in handy.

I have a 40 year old ELM electric cable release (a genuine Hasselblad part!) that now has a 3.5mm stereo jack plug on the end instead of the original 5-pin DIN plug. Didn't cost me a cent to make up my perfect wired X1D cable release. Just a little soldering.

Kinda makes my "patented" mechanical cable release rather redundant now. But, hey! that's progress.

Did you try it?
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 09:27:24 AM
Congratulations on converting the old Hasselblad Release into a X1D release! It seems that Hasselblad made monkeys those of us fabricated meshanical cable release brackets for our X1D. Do you know if the automatic bracketing function works with the remote release? Since the X1D shutter button is a two stage device (AF followed by actual shutter release) does the remote device emulate the second stage without affecting AF? It sounds like all is good butg I am still annoyed with the Hasselblad attitude towards the X1D Users - it is really difficult to believe that the idiots at the factory don't even know how their camera operates! I wonder if they had an expensive simple wired release ready to be released with the X1D-2 camera?  Anyway it's time to enjoy life by taking X1D images using Peter's remote release. I nominate Peter to be the Hasselblad Man of 2018!
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 05, 2018, 10:20:37 AM
I am going to try tomorrow 9 am bracketing with using cable. I believe it should work. Will post the result by 10 am.
Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BillW on September 05, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
I posted this back in July regarding a Facebook posting for the same type of release. Again, nothing from Hasselblad back then. I am sure that their reply would be "you pay your money and you takes your chances".http://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/index.php?topic=5768.0
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 05, 2018, 12:33:58 PM
I wish I did see that in July, would tried it right than.  I become a member of this forum only on Labour day night specifically to let all X1D users know about release cable. The cable you shown on picture probably works very well.
I am going to order one a let you know.

Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 05, 2018, 12:38:41 PM
Just looked at Photix release. Same as we have, different adapter . Should work, but 5x more "expensive"....

Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: sog1927 on September 05, 2018, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 06:41:11 AM
Hasselblad needs to explain the function of the headphone jack and provide assurance that they will not cancel coverage if it is used fro remote shutter operation.

Or, for that matter, disable it in a future firmware update.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: tcdeveau on September 05, 2018, 02:10:56 PM
Quote from: BillW on September 05, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
I posted this back in July regarding a Facebook posting for the same type of release. Again, nothing from Hasselblad back then. I am sure that their reply would be "you pay your money and you takes your chances".http://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/index.php?topic=5768.0

In another X1D Facebook thread promoting a near identical solution earlier this summer, Hasselblad did comment. Some of the group members asked Hasselblad to step in and moderate saying that the initial post regarding the minijack third party solution, similar to Peters solution, was potentially encouraging customers to brick their cameras.

if I remember correctly, Hasselblads reply (Wade I believe was the rep) was that their official solution was Phocus Mobile, and that using a solution like Peters would void the warranty.  There was another thread a little while after that from another user showing a video with a radio transmitter and minijack into one of the audio ports, and again Hasselblad stepped in and said using such solution would void the warranty.  I doubt using solutions like Peter would really cause harm, but don't expect Hasselblad to honor the warranty if it does.

I don't know why at this point Hasselblad can't simply validate it themselves, but I imagine 110% of their engineering resources at this time are devoted to the new XCD lenses, the X2D, and the H7 (especially now since the IQ4 is out).
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: jng on September 05, 2018, 03:13:35 PM
This appears to be a great solution. Does it work when using the electronic shutter?

Thanks.

John
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BradP on September 05, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
Quote from: BillW on September 05, 2018, 01:38:14 AM
Wish someone from Hasselblad would comment on this.

+1 and subscribing to this post awaiting more responses.

Thankfully now I may not need to do the metalworking prescribed by Mr. Galoubet, which I've often considered. 
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 05:19:58 PM
I also wonder those vindictive people at the factory might try to disable the headphone jack. I have no respect nor trust for them but don't worry they are too busy "designing" the X1D ver 2 and figuring out their lens roadmap mess to spend anytime on the X1D - we are just old news!!
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 06, 2018, 12:18:40 AM
I would not recommend to go to older firmware. I have never tested it and can not see why would anyone try to re invent the wheel and take unnecessary risk. If it working, don't fix it. Just my opinion, have no proof otherwise.
Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 06, 2018, 12:59:36 AM
Another good news : Release cable is working perfectly with HDR, just tried it.
Enjoy, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 06, 2018, 03:51:04 AM
Great news! Thank you for establishing that the remote release supports the automatic bracketing function. That is a biggie for those of us that use HDR or other exposure bracketing schemes. In the default configuration, the X1D shutter button has two stages. Stage 1 activates the AF and stage 2 actually fires the shutter. I have setup my camera so that stage 1 is eliminated and the AF must be activated with one of the rear buttons. Does the remote release support both stages or only stage 2? In other words does the remote release cause the camera to refocus prior to releasing the shutter?
I want to thank you again for providing us with a technical solution to a big problem. I only wish that the "technical experts" of Hasselblad could be of help - in light of what has happened these so called experts must really feel stupid!!!!!!
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 06, 2018, 04:06:20 AM
I tried it   on manual focus setup and it did not refocused.
Hope that will help, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: rent on September 06, 2018, 04:33:27 AM
I'm one or two versions behind the latest firmware. And I'm holding off updating until I get my 2.5->3.5mm adapter so I can test this out on my slightly outdated firmware. Should have it in a week or so.

But I'm not brave enough to roll back all the way to the original firmware.  :P

Alex

Quote from: galoubet on September 05, 2018, 07:21:46 PM
Quote from: fotophil on September 05, 2018, 05:19:58 PM
I also wonder those vindictive people at the factory might try to disable the headphone jack.

My suspicions are that the microphone jack/shutter release feature is a deliberate attempt by Hasselblad to solve the lack of a cable release. I cannot for one moment believe that it is purely incidental (although knowing the plumbing idiosyncracies in my old house, you never know!).

I'm wondering whether this is a firmware feature that might have been recently introduced (but not announced) rather than perhaps an original hardware innovation that was abandoned but not removed.

Is anyone out there brave enough to backdate their X1D firmware to the original code (or certainly one a year or so back) to see whether the microphone jack still doubles as a shutter release?

Just something to think about.

(Modified - Added photo of my new 40 year old X1D cable release!)
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 06, 2018, 05:07:24 AM
Thanks for verifying that the remote release supports the stage 2 shutter release. Are you running the latest firmware in your X1D?

I wonder what happens when the X1D is the default configuration with both stage 1 and stage 2 actions on the shutter button? In other words when the X1D is in the default AF mode what is the effect of the remote release? Does it try to first AF with the first push and require a second push to release the shutter?

I ordered by E-parts yesterday but I suspect many other X1D owners have the same.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 06, 2018, 06:21:21 AM
I am running 1.21 version, I believe it is the last one.
In autofocus mode it will focus the lens first and than fire. No need to press it twice.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 06, 2018, 06:40:37 AM
Another thanks to you Peter for verifying that the remote release supports both MF and AF modes. I wonder if your Hasselblad Dealer Status can put you in more direct contact with the real technical experts at the Hasselblad Factory rather than the lower level "know nothing" folks that we X1D Users have to content with?
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: Iskander on September 06, 2018, 06:38:15 PM
Hi Peter, what about a short video that shows the working cable?

regards
Michael
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 06, 2018, 11:50:35 PM
Hi Michael.
There is no need for video. Connect the 2 cables and plug in 3.5mm end to audio port in X1D.  Finished. Happy shooting.
Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 07, 2018, 03:33:24 PM
Peter has indicated his successful use of the wired remote release has been with the 1.21 firmware.  I would suggest checking with him before attempting to use the release with older firmware.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 07, 2018, 05:02:35 PM
Hi Peter

The X1D has two 3.5mm jacks. Am I correct that it is the audio Input jack (for microphone) that you used for the remote release cable and NOT the audio output jack (headphones)?  Please advise

Thanks
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 08, 2018, 12:52:26 AM
Microphone input socket (top one).
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 12, 2018, 03:29:13 AM
IT WORKS!!!

I received my DIY Remote Release Kit and it works just as Peter4 said it would. I have no idea if the "Microphone" Jack actually supports a mic but it certainly supports the remote shutter release function. Currently there is an unestabished rumor that the X1D Mic Jack was actually designed by Hasselblad to serve as a remote shutter release. As a X1D owner I encourage Hasselblad to clarify the issue. The remote release works fine and Hasselblad has arranged to make us look like fools! The "hidden remote shutter release" has been discovered and Hasselblad's Integrity has been damaged in my book. Hopefully they will explain their position.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: hcubell on September 12, 2018, 04:30:24 AM
I agree that it is incumbent on Hasselblad to provide some guidance here. I also really hope that Hasselblad does not raise a false red flag about the use of this device just because they never told us about it in the first place and that makes them look bad. It will be FAR worse in the long run if they say the use of the MIC jack is risky if it's not.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 12, 2018, 11:16:28 AM
The remote release that Peter brought us is a standard push button remote switch whose action exactly duplicates the two stage action of the X1D shutter release. Since this is also the behavior of remote releases on Canons, Pentax Canon, etc., it seems that the X1D also has a standard design remote release. There is no magic or luck involved because I think at some point (maybe even the beginning) Hasselblad sensibly designed the X1D such the "mic" jack serves as a remote shutter release jack in a similar manner that most other camera systems employ remote shutter releases.

If this is true the big question is why Hasselblad has choose to hide the remote release capability despite a strong desire from the users for such capability? Was it lack of weatherproof sealing due the wire attachment? Was it because the external wire interfered with the camera aesthetics? Was it because someone at Hasselblad thought that the X1D users were stupid thinking that a remote release was important?

When will Hasselblad provide the facts regarding the remote shutter release. Does the factory approve, disapprove or not care? Is the warranty affected by the use of the release? Is the service life of the X1D adversely affected?  It is obvious that the weathersealing is compromised when the gasketed door no longer protects the jack so the remote release should not be used in the rain. It is time for Hasselblad to do some explaining.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: esslingen on September 19, 2018, 06:43:37 AM
Hello,
David Jung proposes this on Fan Page - Hasselblad X1D User Group:

Solved Hasselbld cable-release for H-System with audioadapter 3.5 male - 2.5 female jack.....
https://www.hasselblad.com/h-system-accesso.../release-cord-h/

watch video in:
https://www.facebook.com/DavidJosefJung81/videos/10218190510020411/?t=5
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BradP on September 19, 2018, 07:33:57 AM
Hi Eslingen — the first link doesn't work and the second seems to require a Facebook login.  Could you please try posting the first link again?

I still haven't seen any statement from Hasselblad on whether this cable release solution may cause damage or invalidate warrantees.  Has anyone seen such a statement?  I have come to expect they are better at communicating on important issues like this in this forum or elsewhere. 

In the absence of that I guess I will be waiting a few more weeks before I become brave enough to try it myself.  It is a super important feature to have.  It was the #1 requested firmware upgrade by forum members here. http://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bc37e6da775d47db51ea5e5a7e6f61c1&topic=5738.15 (http://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bc37e6da775d47db51ea5e5a7e6f61c1&topic=5738.15)
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 19, 2018, 08:28:05 AM
Brad, I do not believe there is a reason to worry. I am using that gizmo for 2 weeks now, no problem. Have it connected to my Seitz VR Drive and this thinks is firing the X1D non stop. And it works perfectly with HDR as well.
If you are waiting for OK from Hasselblad, I do not think it will come, as the release cable is not their tested design. From the response se I got there are now plenty of happy X1D users with this release cable.
In case you decide to try it, attached find my suppliers... And there is no ulterior motive on my part, just to make sure Hassy users are Happy campers!
Have a great day, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: neilb on September 19, 2018, 08:57:21 AM
Peter, my thanks also for this information. Do you think that your discovery means that we should be able to trigger the X1D with PocketWizards with a cable? Seems like it has the right cables and is designed to trigger a camera. What would you think?  :)
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 19, 2018, 09:02:38 AM
Never thought about it. I have Pocket wizards, will check the cables I have and give it a try tomorrow. It should work. My reason for doing it was to fire Seitz VR drive, so now luckily all X1D users can benefit.
Will let you know tomorrow. Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: neilb on September 19, 2018, 09:13:15 AM
Thanks Peter. The PocketWizards seem to have good range, so this might be a very reliable way to trigger remotely! 
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: esslingen on September 19, 2018, 10:27:43 PM
Hello Brad,
I'll put the first link https://www.hasselblad.com/h-system-accessories/release-cord-h/
It can be seen on the Hasselblad website and on H accessories, it is the Release Cord cable (Article No. 3043370)
The link of the video
https://www.facebook.com/DavidJosefJung81/videos/10218190510020411/ to be Facebook you must login, I hope you have a Facebook session, if not, I do not know how to see the video.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on September 20, 2018, 08:40:46 AM
Based upon a statement from Wade that appeared on the Facebook Page, it appears that Hasselblad has not evaluated the adapter that is required to use the H Release Cord on the X1D. Is this "adapter" just the 3.5mm to 2.5mm connector? How difficult can it be for Hasselblad to evaluate such a simple fitting? I wonder if Hasselblad would approve the H Release Cable if it had the proper size jack? It is absolutely amazing the non-professional, almost child-like, behavior being exhibited by Hasselblad with respect to the remote release issue.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: sog1927 on September 21, 2018, 05:22:41 AM
Just wanted to add that Peter's solution is working perfectly for me - and has solved my biggest outstanding issue with the X1D.
Thanks, Peter!

Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on September 21, 2018, 05:27:04 AM
You are very welcome and everyone who is using X1D. I have a number of customers using Seitz VR drive with X1D first time in 2 years....
Working like magic.
Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BradP on October 25, 2018, 04:32:00 PM
Just checking in.  I just placed an order for the components and, before they arrive, wondered if anyone has had or heard of any bad experiences with this solution.  I haven't heard of any, and also haven't heard of any insights one way or another from Hasselblad. 

Thanks Peter for sharing this.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: PeterL on October 26, 2018, 12:57:31 AM
Using it all the time, no problem, working like a charm.
Ne need to worry. Have a great day, Peter
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: sog1927 on October 26, 2018, 05:17:43 AM
Quote from: PeterL on October 26, 2018, 12:57:31 AM
Using it all the time, no problem, working like a charm.
Ne need to worry. Have a great day, Peter

Me too. It works fine, and the camera hasn't caught on fire yet  ;)
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BradP on November 01, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
Just reporting on similar equipment that seems to work that I just received from Amazon and demoed successfully for a few shots.

The first pic is of of the switch.  There are many like it, though this particular unit now appears sold out.  If you can't get this one, the main points to focus on are to get a switch with a male plug that is 2.5mm, that has no batteries, and that has only one function, to press and release the button (to complete the circuit).  The second pic is of the male 2.5mm connection on the switch.

The third pic is of a 2.5mm female to 3.5mm male adapter.  This one is in stock now, but was tricky to find.  The main thing I looked for was that the 3.5mm side had two rings, not three as most had.  This detail is in the fourth pic. 

I'm unsure if any of these details make a difference, but I'll list them here anyway.

Var är Hasselblad?  I would have paid $300 for this a few weeks ago.  Now I'd only pay $30 or so. And this solution cost about $15.  Var är du?
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BillW on November 04, 2018, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: fotophil on September 20, 2018, 08:40:46 AM
Based upon a statement from Wade that appeared on the Facebook Page, it appears that Hasselblad has not evaluated the adapter that is required to use the H Release Cord on the X1D. Is this "adapter" just the 3.5mm to 2.5mm connector? How difficult can it be for Hasselblad to evaluate such a simple fitting? I wonder if Hasselblad would approve the H Release Cable if it had the proper size jack? It is absolutely amazing the non-professional, almost child-like, behavior being exhibited by Hasselblad with respect to the remote release issue.
If the H Release Cable will work with an adapter, why did Hasselblad build the X1D with a 3.5mm plug and not the 2.5mm? They sure could have sold a bunch of these at $87 retail.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: tcdeveau on November 04, 2018, 04:12:38 PM
Because, unlike the H, the primary [intended] function of the port is audio, and 3.5mm (ie minijack) is a ubiquitous size for audio accessories
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: sog1927 on November 05, 2018, 09:10:52 AM
Yeah, but they could have charged $50 for an "H-series release adapter". That's a missed opportunity.  ;)
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BillW on November 10, 2018, 08:24:26 AM
Finally tried this with a newly purchased used Hasselblad release cord H and adapter. Yes it cost more than the generic ones but it is very small and it does say Hasselblad on it. Hasselblad could probably sell a bunch of these if they confirmed it is ok to use them with an adapter or just sell them with one. Or better yet have some made with the 3.5mm plug.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: Gravastar on November 10, 2018, 01:31:24 PM
A question for those of you that have this working. Does it give you identical functionality as the release on the camera body. That is, a two action shutter release where half pressure enables autofocus and full pressure (travel) operates the shutter? So you could hold the focus point for several seconds before taking the picture.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BillW on November 11, 2018, 03:10:59 AM
I have not tried it with AF as that is not how I shoot at least while on a tripod. I focus manually to get exactly what I want and my exposure is set where it needs to be as well. I use the bracketing function and with the current software, you could not use bracketing and self timer at the same time.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: fotophil on November 11, 2018, 05:39:14 AM
With the X1D set to Manual Focus (MF) Mode, the AF function is removed from the shutter release so the cable release will only operate the shutter release. Auto bracketing is not supported by the self timer but it is supported by the cable release. In the Auto Focus (AF) Mode, the X1D shutter button has two stages both of which which are supported by the cable release.

Based upon my experience and feedback from other users, the cable release appears to be a safe option. it is unfortunate that Hasselblad Tech Support doesn't endorse it on the X1D. Perhaps they are saving it for "new feature "in the X2D? I think a better Hasselblad Tech Support Department would be an a great "new feature" of the X2D!
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: BradP on November 11, 2018, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: Gravastar on November 10, 2018, 01:31:24 PM
A question for those of you that have this working. Does it give you identical functionality as the release on the camera body. That is, a two action shutter release where half pressure enables autofocus and full pressure (travel) operates the shutter? So you could hold the focus point for several seconds before taking the picture.

No, not with my configuration anyway, but a great question.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: JoeC on July 22, 2019, 08:17:34 AM
Free cable release for X1D (not Hasselblad brand). I have one set of the Peter Lorber solution (see earlier post in this thread) to the cable release dilemma that I'm offering for free, including shipping to CONUS. All I need is a PM with your shipping address. Consider it my way of paying it forward. Here's a photo of what I'm offering:

(https://www.joecolsonphotography.com/photos/Cuely%20Cable%20Release.jpg)

Joe
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: matthewcng on August 15, 2019, 11:49:59 AM
Just got an email from B&H that the release cord is back in stock. Ordered one right away.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: MGrayson on August 15, 2019, 01:02:23 PM
Interesting. I wonder if my back order from B&H will ship now.  :o
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: SrMi on August 15, 2019, 05:00:10 PM
Quote from: MGrayson on August 15, 2019, 01:02:23 PM
Interesting. I wonder if my back order from B&H will ship now.  :o

You should have received an email saying that your release cable is being shipped.

I also got an email, ordered it and received an email that it is being shipped.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: michael123 on August 16, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
What is the length of X cable?

Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: matthewcng on August 16, 2019, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: michael123 on August 16, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
What is the length of X cable?

https://www.hasselblad.com/x-system-accessories/release-cord-x/ (https://www.hasselblad.com/x-system-accessories/release-cord-x/)

According to the website, the length is 90cm (36in.).
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: michael123 on August 16, 2019, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: matthewcng on August 16, 2019, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: michael123 on August 16, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
What is the length of X cable?

https://www.hasselblad.com/x-system-accessories/release-cord-x/ (https://www.hasselblad.com/x-system-accessories/release-cord-x/)

According to the website, the length is 90cm (36in.).

Thanks, pity it is like the currently used Canon.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: MGrayson on August 16, 2019, 10:59:31 PM
Quote from: michael123 on August 16, 2019, 10:46:55 PM
Quote from: matthewcng on August 16, 2019, 09:37:37 PM
Quote from: michael123 on August 16, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
What is the length of X cable?

https://www.hasselblad.com/x-system-accessories/release-cord-x/ (https://www.hasselblad.com/x-system-accessories/release-cord-x/)

According to the website, the length is 90cm (36in.).

Thanks, pity it is like the currently used Canon.

Amazon. 25 ft. 3.5 mm female to male audio cable. $12.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: MGrayson on August 17, 2019, 03:36:26 AM
Mine arrived: here's my review
                          Canon               Hassy
Weight               33 g                  44g (Beautiful leather pouch, +20g)
Button                black plastic     orange/gold metallic
Price                  $25                   $80
Cord                   25"                   35"
Function            Click Button      Click Button
Looks                Meh                  Jewelry
Packaging         Meh                  Jewelry Box
Image Quality   Superb              Superb

8)

Matt

Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: Ikarus on August 27, 2019, 01:37:58 PM
I received my Hasselblad Release Cord X today.  Interestingly, it says on the back of the box "Manufactured but DJI Baiwang Technology Co Ltd" in Shenzen.  Now, there's a relief!

I am curious, however, abut a sheet of white A4 paper inside the shipping box (from B&H), with the words in large type "The LPN does not exist!"

what on earth does that mean?
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: matthewcng on August 27, 2019, 05:14:44 PM
Mine arrived too, also says "Manufactured by DJI". Has this been the case for the previous X Cords?

I also ordered from BH, but I didn't get a sheet of paper saying "LPN does not exist"
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: JCM-Photos on August 28, 2019, 02:30:19 AM
Hello guys

with my X release cord came a disclaimer sheet, that there is a bug when using the X1D with sound activated in B shutter mode. Sound notifications have to be disactivated with bulb mode.
The bug will be fixed in a further firmware update.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: Iceman1331 on August 31, 2019, 09:29:52 AM
I just received my X cable from B&H and have not tried it out yet. I do not see any disclaimer paper work as mentioned in this thread.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: Iceman1331 on September 01, 2019, 09:22:48 AM
I have tried out the X cable release in my x1d and it works fine as designed. In AF mode, you just need to press the golden button on the remote once and the camera will perform 2 step function of focusing and exposure. In the Manual mode, only one step function is done for exposure after the button on the remote is pressed, assuming you already manually adjusted the focus. When the top dial is set to "M" for manual camera operation, the "B" bulb function works fine without any issue which allows the shutter to remain open as long as the button on the remote is continuously pressed. It is the "Microphone" input jack to be used for the remote plug in, not the headphone jack as some suggested earlier.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: snappu on September 06, 2019, 05:05:33 AM
Does the X cable not work with the e-shutter? I tried with an adapted lens and it wouldn't fire. Could someone confirm?
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: FirstLights on November 14, 2019, 01:23:11 AM
BTW - has anyone confirmed through simply measuring zero ohm between the terminals that the x cord release cable is actually just short circ. the mic-in port in order to fire?

Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: FirstLights on November 29, 2019, 11:51:43 PM
I am re-posting this and hope that an owner of the x cord cable release can shed some light on this.
Thanks
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: glaiben on November 30, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
I put a meter on the Tip/Ring/Sleeve.  Pressing the shutter release button on the Release Cord X shorts Ring to Sleeve (0 ohms).  Tip is not shorted at any time.

...gregg
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: FirstLights on November 30, 2019, 11:10:12 PM
Many thanks Gregg - that's very useful to know!
Cheers, Holger
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: FirstLights on December 05, 2019, 10:29:20 PM
I am thinking of an innovative solution for triggering the camera whilst holding it overhead with a tripod / monopod to get a different angle on scenes from above.
As one need both hands to do so, I am currently designing an acoustic trigger that will work with the very high frequencies of a dog whistle in my mouth (the high frequency will prevent triggering the camera by ambient noise and talk ...).
I will be soldering something together over the Xmas break and will report my results here.
Holger
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: raffa on December 09, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
I'm trying to use the adapter solution but it's not working for me.
I'm using an old Hassy release cable that I used for years on my H4D.
Also trying with a 3rd party cable.
Using a 2.5-3.5mm adapter from Amazon.
X1DII firmware is updated.

Any ideas why it's not working?
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: SeanRL on December 18, 2019, 01:45:08 PM
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Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: glaiben on December 18, 2019, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: raffa on December 09, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
Any ideas why it's not working?

Just to clarify, are you inserting the plug into the top (microphone) jack or to the lower (audio out) jack?

...gregg
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: raffa on December 19, 2019, 05:27:27 AM
Quote from: glaiben on December 18, 2019, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: raffa on December 09, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
Any ideas why it's not working?

Just to clarify, are you inserting the plug into the top (microphone) jack or to the lower (audio out) jack?

I tried both, just in case... but nothing

...gregg
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: Stefan Prasser on December 19, 2019, 08:54:41 AM
Quote from: raffa on December 19, 2019, 05:27:27 AM
Quote from: glaiben on December 18, 2019, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: raffa on December 09, 2019, 11:27:51 PM
Any ideas why it's not working?

Just to clarify, are you inserting the plug into the top (microphone) jack or to the lower (audio out) jack?

I tried both, just in case... but nothing

...gregg

I have the H-release cable with this adapter https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XPYZW5X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 properly working on my X1D II. No special settings, it just worked. Same functionaly as the X-release cable I own as well.
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: raffa on December 20, 2019, 11:31:01 PM
thanks, I'll try ordering that one
Title: Re: Release cable for X1D
Post by: bobk@mediabuying.com on December 21, 2019, 12:26:59 PM
I have a Vello Shutter Vos 111 wireless Remote from my use on my Nikon camera bodies, I went to B &H and got the RCC-C1-3.5 Shutter cable release ($8),   hooked that up to the Vello Receiver and ....  perfecto!! 


no issues. works perfectly.


The shutter triggers, and the Vello can be programed for nearly any amount of shutter actuations,  time lapse,     sequences of bracketing, delayed or timed releases.       


$8  instead of manual trigger for Hassy  priced at $80.


This works for me.


good luck,
bob