The MTF charts of the 25V and the 21 are not that different. I expect a good copy of the 25 to be excellent. The 21 certainly is.

I normally edit in Phocus, export as a Tiff, finish in Lightroom and print from Lightroom.  In Lightroom I have a number of presets for paper size and more importantly the borders for the print.

If I don't need to do any more work in Lightroom I was exploring the possibility of printing the fff file directly from Phocus.  However if I choose, for example A2 as my paper size, Phocus automatically fills the entire paper size with the image.  As far as I can tell there is no way to create, again for example, a 1 inch border around the entire image.

Am I missing something or can Phocus only print to the full size of the paper selected?

Quote from: pixelpower on May 24, 2024, 05:45:16 AMI have both systems, although i don't do "street" photography, I have walked around using both for landscape and general outdoor photos. I can tell you based on size and simplicity, the Q3 may be the better choice if you want to do carry around, shoot and go type of work. Plus the Q3 ALWAYS has the right lens on it since it can not be changed. It is smaller, lighter and easier to shoot with 1 hand and generally easier to carry around in my opinion.
Here's a few pics for comparison to my HB and xcd 55 lens.

My experience is with the Q2 which I sold to get the X2D. I realize that the q3 is a different beast in some respects, but in others (like size, weight, lens) it is the same so I can chime in with the caveat that your mileage may vary, as always.

I use the X2D with the 45P most of the time, because it just so happens that the particular FOV is my favorite, while I always found the 28 on the Q a bit too wide for my taste. The combination of X2D+45P in terms of size and weight comes a lot closer to the Leica, so it takes away some of its inherent advantage there. At least in my book.

In terms of simplicity of use, both have simple menus that do not detract from the UX, but I feel that the hasselblad (maybe due to lack of video?) is the simpler of the two. Having said that, they are both lean compared to every other brand, so it comes down to personal choice.

In terms of IQ, the X2D is a class (or two) above. It makes sense too. The Summicron is no slouch and it is coupled to the sensor so IQ is great there too (talking about the Q2 now), but it simply cannot mach the Hasselblad. The Q2 I had was not particularly good in low light either, where the X2D shines.

I subscribe to the dogma "one camera, one lens" and that was the reason I got the Q in the first place or the fact that I use the X2D about 90% of the time with the 45P. However, having the option to have other lenses of stellar quality is only a plus. You may choose to do it or not, but you have the choice.

If for some reason I needed a complement to the X2D for a substantially different experience, I would get one of the last 3 variants of the X100. There, the size-weight advantage is clear (the Leica is a tank!) and it is the quintessential street camera, if that's your thing.

All in all, I find the purchase of X2D and Q3 to be an overkill with minimum (if any) marginal utility. But as I said: YMMV:)

Thinking on ordering one. The MTF charts seem to indicate that it isn't great in the corners, and OK by f5.6. Do you recon it would be nice for landscape & city scape?

For my kind of shooting I find the 21mm a bit too wide, the 30mm a bit too narrow and "near" the 35-75. I do like the separation for close ups that f2.5 would give me. So in theory my kit could become:
- 25
- 35-75
- 80

and the 120 or 135 at some point.

Has anyone done a comparison of these lenses?

I appreciate that the 25V has the manual focus clutch etc.  What I'm interested in is primarily image quality, though AF is also relevant.  I must admit I'm biased in favour of the manual focus of the V version.

IF you have access to the new V lenses then, I prefer the X2D over the Q3 (I have both). I have not tested the X2D for street since the face detect firmware arrived, so I guess I'll like it more.

I do like the Q3 through and sometimes I choose it because I feel like it. It's nice to have the option. The Q3 also can shoot some casual video, if that matters (it doesn't to me).

Mostly I prefer the X2D because I like a closer to normal focal length and the 55V suits me more than the 28 on the Q3. If I go wide, I'm likely to go wider (28 or 25 on the X2D). The Q3 is a bit of an in-between focal length for my travel photography. While I can make it work, I have better options.

Gordon

Quote from: pflower on May 24, 2024, 05:15:18 AMIn the UK the official DJI Hasselblad store seems to be the place to look.  I saw it listed as being available on May 23rd and ordered on the 16th May and it arrived early morning on the 23rd May.  It is currently listed as being in stock and for delivery on the 25th May if anyone is interested.

They have the xCD 25v as well. I got mine from the European ie Swedish, store .... I thought it was the uk one! Oops. It took a week. 

The Q can be a nice compliment to the X2D. Street photography is a wide field. The Q3 has AFC and tracking and the AF generally works faster. Also, it has a cool macro function, which his handy at times. Maybe you rent one and try it out? If you do not happen to have the 2.5/38 for the X2D, the Q3 may be able to replace that one.

I have both systems, although i don't do "street" photography, I have walked around using both for landscape and general outdoor photos. I can tell you based on size and simplicity, the Q3 may be the better choice if you want to do carry around, shoot and go type of work. Plus the Q3 ALWAYS has the right lens on it since it can not be changed. It is smaller, lighter and easier to shoot with 1 hand and generally easier to carry around in my opinion.
Here's a few pics for comparison to my HB and xcd 55 lens.

In the UK the official DJI Hasselblad store seems to be the place to look.  I saw it listed as being available on May 23rd and ordered on the 16th May and it arrived early morning on the 23rd May.  It is currently listed as being in stock and for delivery on the 25th May if anyone is interested.