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Main Board => H and V Cameras => Topic started by: fsprow on March 16, 2017, 08:46:28 AM

Title: HM 16.32
Post by: fsprow on March 16, 2017, 08:46:28 AM
I love both film (503CW) and digital (now have an H6D-100c, spectacular) and wonder if I would be happy just using the H6D, interchanging the digital back for the HM 16.32.

Thoughts very welcome.
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: ChrisL on March 20, 2017, 09:43:23 AM
I have both formats, a 500c/m (P20 available to use as well as film) and a H1 with a P45+ and several film backs and inserts.
I am happy with either but I would not give up the 500 for the H, the shooting experience is very different, but again I would not give up the H for the 500 even on film.
Given the low cost of a 16-32 back (S/H!!) I see no reason not to get one anyway and run some rolls but your question is would you be just as happy. In what way? On film the best CF lenses are very good I would say if just resolution/rendering is important then the HC lenses will loose something on film but then that's film so I would say you would be pushed to say if you shoot film which camera/lens you used, format shape excepted. As to being happy with the aesthetic experience, you have both why is this a binary decision, other than carrying weight?

Let's try this:
This is on a 80mm lens and Fuji Pro 400H it may be on the H1 and cropped square or it could be the 500c/m.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5560/14916103057_839b2c3df1_c.jpg)

That doesn't help at all does it? Or perhaps it does.

Try Portra 400, cropped 6x4.5 or native 6x6?
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3866/14961668745_b719ebe0df_c.jpg)

Last one:
Portra 400
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8848/29324358871_b3993a3b2b_c.jpg)
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: fsprow on March 21, 2017, 01:56:45 AM
Thanks for the very  helpful reply.  I think I just love the look and handling of the V cameras so much I will keep it anyway but may get the H film back to keep the weight (already heavy) down when traveling.

Frank
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: ChrisL on March 21, 2017, 03:09:31 AM
FYI The first two are HC 80 on 16/32 cropped square, the last 500c/m on 80mm A12.
Its no weight really to add the 16/32 back just remember the digital back protector plate!! Been there done that.
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: Hassilistic on March 21, 2017, 11:49:10 PM
Guys I have a question about the Magazine.

I know that their is a little battery inside for the info in the LCD and all functions pertaining to the Magazine back, but how is the effect on the Camera Grip Battery, I am assuming it will last for a very long time hence no Digital back is attached, although it still powers the autofocus lens mirror, shutter, flash, metering, etc..

Thanks


Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: ChrisL on March 22, 2017, 10:28:30 AM
Can't hep there I am afraid, my Phase One backs are self powered so I don't see a difference shooting film. I do however note that using a manual focus CF lens via the adapter makes a large difference in battery grip life compared to a HC autofocus lens.
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: Hassilistic on March 22, 2017, 07:51:28 PM
The reason I ask, is because I wanna purchase a Magazine holder cause this summer I will find my self shooting in extreme hot situations were I can not expose the back to such possible damage.  I also want to try out some amazing new  B&W film in the process.

Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: fsprow on March 23, 2017, 01:13:15 AM
I just asked a Hasselblad rep about the film back for the H6D.  He said it would not work but will after an update (no definite time for same).
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: ChrisL on March 23, 2017, 07:48:05 AM
Quote from: fsprow on March 23, 2017, 01:13:15 AM
I just asked a Hasselblad rep about the film back for the H6D.  He said it would not work but will after an update (no definite time for same).
Interesting as the Specs. clearly state it will with no limitation specified on an update being required : http://www.hasselblad.com/h6-system/h6d-50c  Film compatibility Yes

Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: Hassilistic on March 23, 2017, 10:30:43 AM
Not a problem for me I am using H5D.  The reason I still wanna know, is because we will be camping and no electricity for at least 4 days.
So a couple of fully charged Batteries will have to last me through it. :)
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: ChrisL on March 23, 2017, 10:53:48 AM
It's going to have to be extreme to go outside the H digital range of operating temperatures: -10 - 45 ̊C
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: Hassilistic on March 23, 2017, 04:42:35 PM
Yup, it's in Dubai in June with average temperatures of 48˚C, dust , sand... honestly I don't think my Insurance would cover it!
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: eyedear on March 23, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
how i wish Hasselblad would provide a firmware update to allow the use of the HM16-32 on the H4D series camera.
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: PhotoKratky on March 23, 2017, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: Hassilistic on March 23, 2017, 10:30:43 AM
Not a problem for me I am using H5D.  The reason I still wanna know, is because we will be camping and no electricity for at least 4 days.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but since I'm going to be in the same situation (no electricity) for ten days in May: Is there a way to charge H5D batteries in the car (short of an inverter)?
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: Hassilistic on March 24, 2017, 06:00:01 AM
Quote from: PhotoKratky on March 23, 2017, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: Hassilistic on March 23, 2017, 10:30:43 AM
Not a problem for me I am using H5D.  The reason I still wanna know, is because we will be camping and no electricity for at least 4 days.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but since I'm going to be in the same situation (no electricity) for ten days in May: Is there a way to charge H5D batteries in the car (short of an inverter)?

Funny you should say that, As someone earlier recommended this to me:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BESTEK-Inverter-Converter-Outlet-Charger/dp/B00INW611Y/ref=pd_sbs_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=23MHNH6EN4K7B8ZZFFST (https://www.amazon.co.uk/BESTEK-Inverter-Converter-Outlet-Charger/dp/B00INW611Y/ref=pd_sbs_23_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=23MHNH6EN4K7B8ZZFFST)
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: fsprow on April 19, 2017, 01:07:08 AM
Looks like the latest firmware update for the H6D includes the HM 16.32
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: fsprow on April 20, 2017, 11:51:25 PM
The latest firmware update for the H6D indicates that this film back is no longer available, so I decided to pick one up and have done so.

Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: fsprow on May 02, 2017, 05:16:13 AM
Just to say I am DELIGHTED with this back.  Have been using my old favorite Velvia and Provia films and scanning on my Nikon 9000ED.  To no surprise one gets the great film "look" where super resolution and / or high ISO is not required. The back also make loading, advancing and rewinding the film a snap too.


Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: Greg on May 02, 2017, 06:43:13 AM
Would something like this work?

https://www.amazon.com/BigBlue-Foldable-Outdoor-SunPower-Cellphones/dp/B01KH2GY32/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493664049&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=solar+charger&psc=1
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: jimijamesu on June 27, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
Is the digital back protector different from the plastic cover that goes on the 16.32?

Quote from: ChrisL on March 21, 2017, 03:09:31 AM
FYI The first two are HC 80 on 16/32 cropped square, the last 500c/m on 80mm A12.
Its no weight really to add the 16/32 back just remember the digital back protector plate!! Been there done that.
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: jerome_m on June 27, 2017, 06:24:36 PM
Quote from: jimijamesu on June 27, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
Is the digital back protector different from the plastic cover that goes on the 16.32?

Yes, it is in metal, thick and therefore considerably more sturdy.
Title: Re: HM 16.32
Post by: ChrisL on June 27, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
Quote from: jimijamesu on June 27, 2017, 02:40:55 PM
Is the digital back protector different from the plastic cover that goes on the 16.32?

They are very different construction rigid thick metal (aluminium?) v plastic.
In an extreme you could use the plastic film back on the digital it does fit of course but it offers poor protection, the plastic is thin, can be easily bent, the latch is just a tongue of plastic and is not a secure fit. Conversely the metal digital protector does massively over-protect a film back :-)