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Title: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: michael123 on August 02, 2018, 05:39:07 AM
Hi

FYI

Toward our trip to Tuscany I wanted to order an extra battery. But B&H did not ship internationally due to regulations, and Adorama did not have in stock (i.e. they marked it like it is in stock, but after the order they wrote it is not).. Anyway I turned over to Hasselblad to ship it directly to our hotel.

To my surprise, I got a notice from customer service that the battery is discontinued, and there is a new one instead


High Capacity Li-ion Rechargeable Battery (for X System)
SKU: CP.HB.00000238.01
Capacity: 3400 mAh
Voltage: 7.27 V
Battery Type: Li-ion
Energy: 24.7 Wh
Price: EUR 95 (including VAT)

It's 95 EUR, 20 EUR cheaper than the original one with higher capacity.

Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: BillW on August 02, 2018, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: michael123 on August 02, 2018, 05:39:07 AM
Hi

FYI

Toward our trip to Tuscany I wanted to order an extra battery. But B&H did not ship internationally due to regulations, and Adorama did not have in stock (i.e. they marked it like it is in stock, but after the order they wrote it is not).. Anyway I turned over to Hasselblad to ship it directly to our hotel.

To my surprise, I got a notice from customer service that the battery is discontinued, and there is a new one instead


High Capacity Li-ion Rechargeable Battery (for X System)
SKU: CP.HB.00000238.01
Capacity: 3400 mAh
Voltage: 7.27 V
Battery Type: Li-ion
Energy: 24.7 Wh
Price: EUR 95 (including VAT)

It's 95 EUR, 20 EUR cheaper than the original one with higher capacity.

Thanks good to know. I bought my spare battery off eBay fairly reasonable at $75. It was the only I had seen at the time for sale.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: Chriscove on August 02, 2018, 09:14:15 AM
Interesting, slightly more power, 3400 verses 3200 mAh. I don't see it listed in the US Hasselblad store.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: JoeC on August 03, 2018, 12:13:39 PM
Looks like they're available in Europe. Here's an ad from Robert White (UK):

(https://www.hasselbladdigitalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.joecolson.com%2Fphotos%2FScreen%2520Shot%25202018-08-02%2520at%25208.11.03%2520PM.png&hash=92b145d20b36214f38d1bcc5176436b1b180c9bd)

Maybe we'll see them in the US soon.

Joe
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: michael123 on August 03, 2018, 04:38:16 PM
Quote from: JoeC on August 03, 2018, 12:13:39 PM
Looks like they're available in Europe. Here's an ad from Robert White (UK)

but strangely more expensive than the list price  :o
Order directly from Hasselblad if you need one
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: sepiareverb on August 03, 2018, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: michael123 on August 02, 2018, 05:39:07 AM
...Adorama did not have in stock (i.e. they marked it like it is in stock, but after the order they wrote it is not)..

Typical Adorama tactic. This is why I will not order from them.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: jjaviervi on August 04, 2018, 04:54:06 AM
This is good news! It's 6% more capacity but its better than nothing. It would be interesting to know if they made other technical changes to it.

Now we need a faster charger. The current one takes forever to charge.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: ceoofhell on August 04, 2018, 05:55:38 PM
A twin charger would be great, too.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: JoeC on August 14, 2018, 10:54:09 AM
Samy's shows it as "In stock" but I can't seem to get through the cart payment process.  >:(

Joe
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: BillW on August 15, 2018, 01:48:02 AM
Neither B&H or Hasselblad USA show them to be in stock. They still show the older version of the battery.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: Chriscove on August 15, 2018, 06:29:24 AM
Quote from: JoeC on August 14, 2018, 10:54:09 AM
Samy's shows it as "In stock" but I can't seem to get through the cart payment process.  >:(

Joe

I was able to order one via Samy's. I am curious to know if there are any reports out there on whether it is a better performer.

Chris
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: braver on August 16, 2018, 11:27:53 AM
I've just confirmed Samy's had 7 in their LA warehouse and I ordered 3.  4 left up for grabs!:)

Update: they shipped in an hour via next day air!  Love our American, Californian industriousness.:)
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: Mellan Wilde on August 16, 2018, 01:26:09 PM
Quote from: BillW on August 15, 2018, 01:48:02 AM
Neither B&H or Hasselblad USA show them to be in stock. They still show the older version of the battery.

New has come for the US. :)
https://store.hasselblad.com/products/high-capacity-battery?from=accessories
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: tcdeveau on August 17, 2018, 02:55:57 PM
Quote from: Mellan Wilde on August 16, 2018, 01:26:09 PM
Quote from: BillW on August 15, 2018, 01:48:02 AM
Neither B&H or Hasselblad USA show them to be in stock. They still show the older version of the battery.

New has come for the US. :)
https://store.hasselblad.com/products/high-capacity-battery?from=accessories

That's good news. I personally would probably be more excited about it if I didn't already have 5 of the existing batteries. Oh well. Higher capacity batteries at a lower price point certainly is a good thing for the system in general.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: michael123 on September 16, 2018, 06:44:27 AM
Today we put the fully charged new batttery into X1D and it didn't power up!
Went back to older battery - no problem

:o
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: sepiareverb on September 16, 2018, 06:49:58 AM
I'm having the same issue. Battery gets charged, is put in camera and the camera can't start. Plug in the battery and it reads charged. Wade from Hasselblad said "Actually, this is not a quality issue, it is a new way we used to preserve the battery from over discharging. But we understand the inconvenience that this brought to you all. We will keep investigating the issue." It certainly can't over discharge if it won't go on!

I have to call back someone from Samy's where I got the battery, hoping they will just replace it with a red ring for me...
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: sepiareverb on September 18, 2018, 07:05:17 AM
So I used the new (grey ring) battery yesterday for a good bit of the morning, after having "recharged" it overnight and putting it right into the camera. The camera was powered off and went back in the bag yesterday at about 11:30, I just now took it out and it powers up fine. Shut down and removed the battery. Reinserted it and it powers up fine.

Just got off the phone with Samy's, they're sending me a return label and I will just pay the difference and get the old battery.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: michael123 on September 18, 2018, 05:44:51 PM
I don't understand - so the new 3400mAh worked in the end for you after second charge cycle?
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: sepiareverb on September 18, 2018, 11:59:50 PM
Apparently the battery will work if it is fresh from the charger, this according to Hasselblad NJ. I never shoot in the studio, so having a battery that needs to be "freshened" via the charger before use isn't going to work for me.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: sog1927 on September 19, 2018, 05:12:22 AM
Yeah, this looks like one of those "features" which seems like a really good idea when you see it on the spec sheet, but turns out to be an absolute pain in real life. "The battery turns itself off to prevent discharge" sounds terrific  until you realize you have to plug all your batteries into the charger to reset them before you go out and shoot.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: michael123 on September 19, 2018, 05:44:44 AM
Actually, I re-charged this new black battery two days ago for the full night, and today tried to put it into X1D - and success! It started up!!

Hard to understand the logic
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: sog1927 on September 19, 2018, 05:59:55 AM
There is apparently a timeout period of several days before the battery turns itself off. I'm not sure where I read that, or I'd link to it. It is probably just a figment of my senescent imagination.
Title: Re: New battery for X1D - better and cheaper :)
Post by: michael123 on September 22, 2018, 05:13:10 PM
The new battery worked yesterday OK after being (re-) charged for second time a week ago.

Indeed might be some (activation/de-activation) (anti-) feature