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Title: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: giulioz on July 01, 2015, 01:09:46 AM
Hello,

apart from the Leica S, is there any other camera that can take through adapter my H lenses? I need a back-up to my H5D for when travelling to remote locations in case something happen, without obviously having to invest in a second Hasselblad body.

Thank you, Giulio
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: meshuggener on July 01, 2015, 02:13:05 AM
a spare H5X will be cheaper than a Leica S.
And they are the only to accept H lenses.
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: giulioz on July 01, 2015, 02:25:47 AM
Yes but about if the back fails instead ?
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: jerome_m on July 01, 2015, 02:34:33 AM
Then, a second hand H3D-31 would be much cheaper than a Leica S...

To your question: adapters for the H lenses need some electronic, since the aperture is controlled electrically, so don't hope for a cheap mechanical adapter ring. I think that the only adapter is the one made by Leica for the Leica S mount.
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: giulioz on July 01, 2015, 03:13:34 AM
Can for example an H2 take the back of my H5D?
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: jerome_m on July 01, 2015, 03:56:15 AM
Now, that is an interesting question.

The H2 will not work. The H2D may work, but probably not.
An H3D, H3DII or H4D may work, I think that the chances are rather high.

Why is the question so difficult to answer? Because Hasselblad says backs cannot be exchanged, but people who tried (me and a few others), found that the cameras work nevertheless: it seems that one can use any H3D, H3DII or H4D back on any H3D, H3DII or H4D camera.

So what do we know?

The H1 and H2 will not work with a digital back, they cannot provide power to a digital back. Besides, the protocol apparently has changed between film backs and digital backs, third party digital backs made for the H1 or H2 (and which, by necessity, emulate a film back) do not work on the H3D (which accepts film backs).

The H2D is a special case, it seems that the interface was still evolving at the time.

The H3D, H3DII or H4D appear to be interchangeable.

The H5D is the big unknown. Apparently it uses more power than the earlier backs, this is the reason for the new battery. I am not aware of anyone having tried the H5D backs on, say, an H4D body. It may work or not, the risk is that the body may not be able to send enough power to the back.
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: rsmphoto on July 01, 2015, 09:39:33 AM
Actually, I did just that, bought a used S2 as a back up body with H adapter for work in the Canadian north in the winter 3 years ago. The S2 and S are both seriously weather sealed so rain and sleet that I encountered didn't affect it at all. Not only did the adapter prove rock solid - AND I also had auto focus working with he HTS suddenly. Go figure.  In any case I found it to be the perfect back up, working tethered with LIS and LR4, then LR5 with no, I repeat no connection issues - much better than the H3DII-39. Of course it is USB 2 so a slight bit slower than FW800, but surprisingly close so as not to be an issue. IMHO a very viable alternative that's basically delivers a big M9 image.

R
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: meshuggener on July 02, 2015, 07:39:56 PM
AND I also had auto focus working with he HTS suddenly
That's what I've read once and you confirm it !
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: jerome_m on July 03, 2015, 06:08:11 AM
I think you read it on luminous-landscape, Matias: http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=86673.10 (http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=86673.10), and in both cases the post is from Richard Mandelkorn (rsmphoto). I am not sure anyone else has tried the HTS on the Leica S  :)
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: meshuggener on July 03, 2015, 10:07:14 AM
ahah ok merci !  ;)
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: giulioz on August 15, 2015, 04:39:55 AM
In the end I got a cheap second hand H2D
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: jerome_m on August 15, 2015, 04:44:50 AM
And does it accept your H5D back?
Title: Re: Back-up to Hasselblad
Post by: giulioz on August 15, 2015, 04:52:24 AM
I don't know, haven't tried, it has its own back and accept all my lenses.