The X1D is an extraordinary camera system even in its present configuration. However, there are a number of improvements in the X1D firmware that I would like to see Hasselblad implement over time to make it even better:
1. Real time histogram in Live View on both the LCD and the EVF.
2. Blinkies showing areas of overexposure in the image file after an exposure, preferably based upon the raw file rather than a JPEG.
3. Customization of the different buttons on the camera.
4. Focus peaking in Live View.
5. Auto bracketing of exposure, with the ability to select the number of exposures and the size of the exposure bracket.
6. Reduce length of blackout of Live View after exposure.
7. A menu setting that allows you to turn off AF through a half depress of the shutter button. The way the X1D is now configured, the half depress AF is turned off by pressing the AF/MF button so that it on MF. The problem is that yrou also activate the multipoint AF grid by pressing that same button, and by doing so, AF is often re selected even though you started on MF and want it to stay on MF after you select your AF point to use back button AF.
8. "Zebras" showing overexposure in Live View.
9. Eye detect AF.
10. True Focus.
11. EFCS or ES (not sure this possible with a leaf shutter).
I am sure other owners and potential owners of the X1D have their own suggestions, and I hope they contribute to this thread.
Thanks.
Quote from: hcubell on February 05, 2017, 03:37:21 PM
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7. A menu setting that allows you to turn off AF through a half depress of the shutter button. The way the X1D is now configured, the half depress AF is turned off by pressing the AF/MF button so that it on MF. The problem is that yrou also activate the multipoint AF grid by pressing that same button, and by doing so, AF is often re selected even though you started on MF and want it to stay on MF after you select your AF point to use back button AF.
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exactly the same experience here, happens very easy
9. Eye detect AF:
that would be cool! But then Nr. 10 True Focus is not necessary anymore. Anyways, True Focus is for H platform only and with the selectable AF points also rather redundant. True Focus in H does in deed has some disadvantages as well: rather slow acquisition of focus achievement, especially at low ambient light, and one can make easily mistakes with un-proper camera movement, in which case focus is not there where the intention was...
I sent this to the Hasselblad regional sales reps on the East coast:
QuoteAfter using the Hasselblad X1D for about two weeks, I can honestly say that Hasselblad has introduced a "game changer". I love the camera and XCD lenses and want to offer the following "wish list" (not in priority order) as feedback on what I would characterize as performance improvements.
• Option to lock exposure when AF is achieved, thereby allowing me to focus and recompose without pressing the AE-L button
• Live histogram (EVF and rear LCD)
• More AF points; 35 is OK but I'd like 4x that many
• Wired cable release connecting to the USB port
• Auto ISO in M mode; I want to be able to set the aperture and shutter speed and have ISO "float"
• Auto ISO max setting; now that defaults to 3200
• Better mobile app; Phocus mobile is barely acceptable even when used as just a shutter release IMHO
I am anxiously awaiting the availability of the GPS accessory, as I had expected that functionality to be built into the camera body. While the "blackout" period after the shutter release is pressed is somewhat annoying, it's not a deal breaker for me. Nor is the lack of a lossless compressed RAW file option. Overall, the camera is simple, easy to learn, and produces images with excellent dynamic range, color and resolution.
Thank you for your support and please pass on any of these suggestions to the team in Gothenburg if you feel it's constructive.
I'd add auto bracketing (#5) and eye-detect AF (#9) as priorities after seeing Howard's list.
Perhaps this thread should be moved over to the "Cameras" board (where the cool kids hang out). :)
Joe
Sorry, I actually meant to start this thread in the Cameras section, so hopefully Nick can move it.
Quote from: Buddy on February 05, 2017, 09:12:41 PM
9. Eye detect AF:
that would be cool! But then Nr. 10 True Focus is not necessary anymore. Anyways, True Focus is for H platform only and with the selectable AF points also rather redundant. True Focus in H does in deed has some disadvantages as well: rather slow acquisition of focus achievement, especially at low ambient light, and one can make easily mistakes with un-proper camera movement, in which case focus is not there where the intention was...
It still may quicker and more efficient not to select a different AF point, and just focus and recompose using the central AF point. The X1D may not have the internal hardware necessary to implement True Focus, so it's not a matter of firmware.
I agree, the X1D is off to a good start but some enhancements are in order if they want to stay competitive. For me, eye recognition is a first priority. Hopefully, a side benefit of DJI's investment will be the ability to lean on them for some of their object tracking engineering which they've done so well (I have a couple of DJI drones and their engineering is always on the cutting edge). Although not fool proof, I find Sony's and Fuji's eye/face recognition a valuable asset, especially when used under the right conditions, and I'd hate to give that up. It was my understanding Hasselblad listed Face Recognition as an X1D feature early on but I notice that there hasn't been any mention of that recently, so not sure if it will be included or not. My second priority would be auto bracketing and my third choice would be the auto ISO in manual mode (including ability to set ranges). Lastly, I hope Hasselblad does a better job at communicating their objectives and road map for the X1D product line and lenses. Seems like Fuiji did a real smart move in letting the market know exactly what feature set, lenses and accessories will be included/released over the course of the first year and I hope Hasselblad follows their lead regarding communications. The GFX also bombarded the market with all types of sample images and behind the scenes video with their GFX Challenges series - very smart and helpful marketing IMO. Don't misunderstand me, I've been a Hassy user for many years and I'm very fond of their equipment. It's still my favorite for many of my shooting situations and I have an X1D on order. I remain a Hassy loyalist but I do hope they get a little more forward thinking with their marketing and communications. I've not only been waiting for my X1D delivery since October, it seems to me communications have been just as delayed. To me, since October, there has been no or little progress in further defining the intended feature set as well as the additional lenses they intend to release in 2017. Hopefully, that will all change and we'll ultimately see a wonderful feature set and better communications as the fruits for our patience!
I sent a message to Hasselblad (Ove Bengtsson) with feedback on my use of the X1D since January 20. This is the response I received (responses to my "wish list" items are in blue).
QuoteOption to lock exposure when AF is achieved, thereby allowing me to focus and recompose without pressing the AE-L button
This is a planned feature. Will come...
Live histogram (EVF and rear LCD)
This is a planned feature. Will come...
More AF points; 35 is OK but I'd like 4x that many
We are planning to have a smaller 2.5x2.5mm area as an option and then you get 63 points.
Wired cable release connecting to the USB port
We are trying to find the best way to add a cable release function
Auto ISO in M mode; I want to be able to set the aperture and shutter speed and have ISO "float"
We had this in the early testing of the Auto-ISO function, but quite many said it was confusing. It might come back.
Auto ISO max setting; now that defaults to 3200
In the next release you can choose limits (high and low). 1-2 weeks away.
Better mobile app; Phocus mobile is barely acceptable even when used as just a shutter release IMHO
This will also have an update soon. Probably not all the features you want though! ;-) What is missing?
Ability to reset the camera to factory settings
In the next release you can choose limits (high and low). 1-2 weeks away.
Ability to reset shot count
Not planned, but could be a good idea.
Ability to add copyright information to images taken
We had this on the H5D and I would like to have it also for H6D and X1D.
We are now finalizing the tests of the GPS module at the moment so it shouldn't be long.
I hope you have noted that the blackout period is much longer if you add JPG. You should use RAW only. In that case the blackout period is as short as the sensor allows.
Compressed RAW will come...
Subsequently, I added auto bracketing and face detect/eye detect AF to the "wish list" and received this reply:
QuoteBracketing is on the "list" but I don't think that we will aim to cover every feature from cameras like the Sony A7. However, face detection could be useful and we will see what could be done.
I'm encouraged by 1) getting a rapid personalized response to my inquiries, 2) the likelihood of a near-term firmware update, and 3) plans for future updates to incorporate more features/functions. Hasselblad is clearly seeking feedback from real users and will evolve the X1D over time to meet our needs.
In hindsight, I should have asked about the lens roadmap, but didn't want to get too cheeky. ;)
Yes Ove is the best. I have met him a few times and he even let me handle one of the Apollo cameras (not one that went to the moon obviously). Someone on another forum has published his email address which is really annoying as he is busy enough as it is...
Quote from: NickT on February 11, 2017, 07:16:07 PM
Someone on another forum has published his email address which is really annoying as he is busy enough as it is...
I saw that and would advise Ove to change his email address. Poor forum etiquette.
Joe
It wouldn't have been hard to guess what it was. All Hasselblad email addresses seem to follow the same format.
Hi,
I wish there was a preview after an exposure in the EVF.
cheers.
New firmware is out for the X1D sadly new firmware for the H6d is still not out hope they come soon
Quote from: eyedear on February 16, 2017, 02:43:40 AM
New firmware is out for the X1D sadly new firmware for the H6d is still not out hope they come soon
A good start. However, I was hoping for a live histogram in the LCD and EVF and blinkies showing overexposure in playback images. These features are very valuable for evaluating exposure.
Does the latest firmware allow the user to select shutter speed in auto ISO?
Quote from: KeithL on February 19, 2017, 06:23:02 AM
Does the latest firmware allow the user to select shutter speed in auto ISO?
Keith, the latest firmware does not allow the user to select the minimum shutter speed when using Auto ISO. That's a feature of the Sony a7RII that I've become accustomed to and I miss it on the X1D.
Joe
Joe, thanks, hopefully a future FW update.
Multi-exposure setting. Combining 2 or more photos into one final image. Allows for the equivalent of a long exposure without a filter. I also would like to see auto-bracketing.
Wishlist for landscape photographers:
1) Digital indications of current focus distance in the EVF (optional)
2) Digital DoF scale, indicating at a given focus point and aperture, range of acceptable focus
3) Hyperfocal automation (automatic selection of aperture at given focus distance, in order to obtain acceptable sharpness at infinity)
4) Focus stacking automation (sequence of photos where the camera adjusts the focus slightly)
Leica S and PhaseOne have this kind of features
I know that both of these have been mentioned before, but repetition never hurts when making points.
For me the three things I miss are:
1. Real Time Histogram in live view in the EVF
2. Zebras in the EVF (although I could live without this if the histogram was accurate)
2. Review in the EVF - in bright sunlight the LCD is not ideal.
At present the secondary SD slot can only be used in overflow mode. The possibility to use it also in back-up mode is an essential feature IMHO.
For me:
1) In-camera battery charging. It seems like such a no-brainer, and it's already got USB-C, but I'd bet it's not possible to add via firmware
2) EFCS
3) SD card backup mode
4) Ability to toggle rear screen off
5) Easily reset AF sensor to center using buttons
One additional feature to be added:
1. Multi aspect ratio option: 3:2, 4:3, 16:9, 1:1
I remember it was discussed at the launch of the camera but I cannot find it anywhere on the camera.
This fonction could be implemented on the live view with the square soft button (one press to switch from a ratio to another one)
On my wish list, besides items on other wish lists, is to see JPG available in the camera in monochrome. I am new to Hasselblad and don't know if this just isn't done in general, but since I mostly do monochrome it would be nice to see it while composing. Every other digital camera I have had to date has this. Am I missing something?
I TOTALLY concur with having the ability to see jpg files in monochrome prior to taking the picture. Leica provides this on their M cameras and its really useful. Only available if you select RAW+JPEG for storage. Also I would love to see ability to a) use Auto ISO in manual mode; and b) be able to set the maximum shutter speed when using auto ISO.
Since I think Nick is passing on complaints/problems/comments to Hasselblad I will post here.
I have now been using the X1D for several weeks and in general I think it is wonderful. However apart from specific firmware suggestions that I, and others, have made - notably live histograms, Zebras, review in the EVF I do have 3 bugbears:
1. When the camera is in sleep mode - i.e. let's just say 20 seconds after having made a photograph - a gentle touch on the shutter button does not always or immediately bring back live view in the EVF or LCD. Sometimes it takes multiple presses of the shutter button to get back to live view and sometimes one gets so exasperated that I end up making a photograph of the floor before it responds. I suspect this must be a firmware problem.
2.
It's not just my X1D that demonstrates slightly odd behaviour. I was still editing my earlier post when it mysteriously got posted. So to carry on:
2. I have had 3 days in which I have made about 130 exposures each day. On each day I have had at least one (I think one day I had 3 but can't guarantee that) general system failure which prompts me to eject the battery and start again. On one occasion I got a message asking me if I wanted to save an error log which I did. Is anyone interested at Hasselblad in looking at that and if so who do I send it to? This seems to me to be a software/firmware problem.
3. I am using a Sandisk Extreme 64GB card, class 10 but only 60mbs. For the first 5 or 6 times I used the camera I got a "No Card" error which restarting corrected. Since then I haven't had one but everytime I start the camera it momentarily says that the card is full but then changes its mind and reveals the true number of exposures available to the card.
4. Most annoyingly I am getting "No Lens Attached" error messages. At first this was frequent. I posted this on a forum and got a response to someone who had the same problem and said that this was solved by really mounting the lens with force - so I did so with the camera turned on and got the usual mechanical "click" but then if you push harder there is an electronic click (not dissimilar to the shutter sound). That, I thought, had cured the problem. But recently I have had this twice in the last couple of days. I only have one lens - the 45mm - and so have never changed lenses. Is this another firmware glitch?
Sorry to post here but I know that Nick reads these posts and has communication with Hasselblad. So I am hoping that these glitches might get reported to Hasselblad and get some attention.
Actually having said in Item 4 "most annoyingly", that is not correct. The most annoying thing about the camera is that a very gentle press of the shutter does not return me (always) to live view. Other than this, I love this camera and if these things can be sorted out I fear that 30 years of other equipment is about to become redundant .
Don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but I have found using a faster card at 80mb/s seems to be better and no longer experience needing to reboot by taking the battery out. So, perhaps this is source of some errors. When I put a slightly slower card in, was crashing often.
I have never used any card slower than 95 Mb/s and I had a few crash. Strange enough all the crashes occurred to me during the first week after I got the camera, none recently. The current FW 1.15 has been installed since day one, so the improved stability is not due to the FW.
Hello,
I confirm a real need for a lot of exhibition and competition,
and for slideshow where we mix photos of X1D and nikon for example
the aspect ratio option: 3:2
i hope it very, really.
And once most of this will be done...
there must be a way to make that dreadful shutter sound a bit more sexy. In a Hasselblad!
I'm using the camera for few weeks and here is the list of corrections or additional features I would like to see in a new firmware:
1. Multi aspect ratio
Implement options for different ratios: 3:2, 4:3, 1:1
2. Clipping (Highlight & Shadow) alert
This is very well implemented in the Leica M. Just do the same.
3. Rating
It's a very nice feature to quickly rate the good shots on the go. I like it on my CFV39 back. I initially believed the "star" button on the right side of the screen was for it but it's not.
4. Liveview Activation
Live view goes off for no reason sometimes. Pressing half way on the shutter does not always bring it on. Multiple presses are sometimes required and I ended up sometimes by taking a photo as I was pressing too hard. There is something to fix here.
5. Viewfinder sensor (Viewfinder vs LCD)
The sensor in the viewfinder does not always respond as expected. I wear glasses and it doesn't always detect my eyes. So, the live view is moving sometimes back and force between the viewfinder and the LCD. This is very frustrating. On the other side, the viewfinder is often activated if I put my hand around the LCD to protect from the sun. A good solution will be to implement a manual selection in the menu between the viewfinder and the LCD
6. Image Preview
If I uncheck the Image Preview box and make the exposure with my eye on the viewfinder, the Image Preview still comes on on the LCD if I take my eye away from the viewfinder. This issue has been already reported and identified by Hasselblad.
7. Copyright Infos
Implement Copyright Information
8. Image Numbering / Filename
Implement the option to change the filename structure
Hello,
Do you think that this list of software evolutions is read or transmitted to hasselblad?
Please keep posting here! I do indeed pass these on to Hasselblad!
Thanks, Nick!
Please do pass on the spirit level calibration issue then - can't be user-calibrated in both portrait and landscape orientation. Hopefully it can be corrected via fw.
Thanks!
Alex
Quote from: NickT on April 06, 2017, 10:11:49 AM
Please keep posting here! I do indeed pass these on to Hasselblad!
My 2 anticipated fixes are much quicker AF and a way to scroll through pkayback while zoomed in instead of having to reset the zoom. In other words, zoom to some level in playback and scroll through adjacent pictures while retaining that zoom level.
Also the EV comp indicator on the playback screen should show what EV comp was shot at, not what it's globally set at.
Auto ISO in manual mode (User selects aperture and speed, camera selects ISO)
i just want to emphasize on allowing the user to preview the image on the EVF, i don't want to take my eye off the EVF when i'm shooting, especially on a day time, it makes looking at the image much easier.
also it would be great to be able to choose the MP, not necessary i need 50MP for each image, in many occasions and to save memory space with faster edit i'm happy with 20 or even 10mp. in fact if we can use digital zoom as well.
For whoever is reading these, I'd like to add my two, which, btw, have already been mentioned, so consider mine a reinforcement -
1. Real Time Histogram in Live View
2. Cable release (via USB port would be ideal)
Any reports as to when the next firmware update will likely appear?
PS - For a cable release, my first choice would be a remote cable, that does not need to be attached to the X1D.
I'll ask the question again. Any word on when the next firmware update will be out. I was told it would be May 1. However, in keeping with Hasselblad's track record for on-time release, that could be next year.
My only hope is they improve the EVF proximity sensor. I wear glasses and getting it to switch to EVF is a really glitchy process.
Agreed - the EVF proximity sensor is very glitchy when wearing glasses!
The proximity sensor on my camera is now totally confused when I'm using it outside under the sunlight. With the bright light and shadows, the sensor is just acting crazy switching back and force between the viewfinder and the LCD screen. We are starting to have bright , sunny days here in NYC and I'm discovering this issue (i received my camera during the winter)
My first post on here, so hello all.
I've been using the x1d for a couple of months now and I'm liking a lot of what i'm reading here about firmware updates. I have a couple to add, it's more of a bug which i'm wondering if anyone else has experienced?
I keep getting an issue where the aperture / shutter dials become unresponsive immediately after you take a shot but not removed your eye from viewfinder, so when you need to make a small tweak to exposure after a shot. The only way to fix is to remove your eye triggering the screen on and to then looking through viewfinder again. It's super frustrating when trying to work fast as I often do. I also often have the viewfinder go black with the message half press release to activate, but you can only get it to active by using the same remove eye from viewfinder trick, or by taking a shot (half press doesn't work).
Offer request would be battery percentage read out, you can view when tethered to phocus, so I'm guessing the info is available but for some reason not displayed in the camera.
Thanks,
Paul.
Quote from: paulcalver on June 12, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
My first post on here, so hello all.
I've been using the x1d for a couple of months now and I'm liking a lot of what i'm reading here about firmware updates. I have a couple to add, it's more of a bug which i'm wondering if anyone else has experienced?
I keep getting an issue where the aperture / shutter dials become unresponsive immediately after you take a shot but not removed your eye from viewfinder, so when you need to make a small tweak to exposure after a shot. The only way to fix is to remove your eye triggering the screen on and to then looking through viewfinder again. It's super frustrating when trying to work fast as I often do. I also often have the viewfinder go black with the message half press release to activate, but you can only get it to active by using the same remove eye from viewfinder trick, or by taking a shot (half press doesn't work).
Offer request would be battery percentage read out, you can view when tethered to phocus, so I'm guessing the info is available but for some reason not displayed in the camera.
Thanks,
Paul.
Yes, I just noticed the same thing this morning. Try turning the "Image Preview" button off. While the image is previewing, the dials appear to be dedicated to that function. Fixed it for me.
Not to detract Hasselblad firmware engineers one second from my most needed firmware development (live histogram or blinkies to avoid blowing shots out), another thing I'd put on the list is some sort of matrix light metering mode that takes into account more than 25% of the frame. The current modes seem only allow for the center 25%-5% of the frame. Outdoor shots can be hurt by that (as I'm finding going through some shots today in a heavily wooded outdoor area).
Quote from: BradP on June 17, 2017, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: paulcalver on June 12, 2017, 09:03:42 PM
My first post on here, so hello all.
I've been using the x1d for a couple of months now and I'm liking a lot of what i'm reading here about firmware updates. I have a couple to add, it's more of a bug which i'm wondering if anyone else has experienced?
I keep getting an issue where the aperture / shutter dials become unresponsive immediately after you take a shot but not removed your eye from viewfinder, so when you need to make a small tweak to exposure after a shot. The only way to fix is to remove your eye triggering the screen on and to then looking through viewfinder again. It's super frustrating when trying to work fast as I often do. I also often have the viewfinder go black with the message half press release to activate, but you can only get it to active by using the same remove eye from viewfinder trick, or by taking a shot (half press doesn't work).
Offer request would be battery percentage read out, you can view when tethered to phocus, so I'm guessing the info is available but for some reason not displayed in the camera.
Thanks,
Paul.
Yes, I just noticed the same thing this morning. Try turning the "Image Preview" button off. While the image is previewing, the dials appear to be dedicated to that function. Fixed it for me.
The way it works is that when looking through the EVF you immediately are in live view after you take a picture and have immediate control of f stop and shutter speed with the dials. When looking at the screen, you see a preview of the photo taken and the scroll wheels act as they would in playback mode until the shutter is half pressed.
If you lose response of the dials while looking through the EVF then something is wrong.
My initial wish-list is pretty basic:
1. Option to write files to both cards. There's nothing worse that getting some "once in a lifetime" shots only to go home, slip the card into your PC and have the card die on you. Doesn't happen often, but its sure nice having the backup copy in this situation. In my mind, this is the single most compelling reason to have two card slots in the first place.
2. Something for Android users to at least trigger the camera (vis WiFi). iPhone users apparently have that and much more, but half of us out here don't use iPhones. Even a super-simple app that at least can press the shutter would be great step since there's no other real option (other than setting the camera's timer).
Hi cementjungle,
Thank you for your input. Both of your requests are in the future X1D feature priority list. The option to write to both cards will be introduced shortly, while developing a comparable Android app would take longer time. However, your proposal to introduce a more simple version for just triggering the X1D remotely could be surely a quicker solution. We will look into this possibility.
Stay tuned!
// The Hasselblad team
And I want to have an option to lock front and rear dial when shooting. Often I by misstake change the settings!
I wish it has an option for me to set the initial screen after I turn on my camera or after I take a shot into "focus choosing" mode. So I don't have to long press the AF/MF button every time. Lacking a four way button is inconvenient.