New XCD 25V F/2.5 lens?

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xoda

Quote from: davidjiang on May 08, 2024, 03:23:20 AMI just got the 25V in the DJI store in Shanghai, and made a quick comparison with my XCD just in the store, when wide open, the center and side tiny better than 21, corner similar or 21 tiny better. but after f4, it's a killer.
AF is faster, shutter sound like 90V, and can be 1/4000!
But as mahillsc mentioned, 21 is 92 degree vs 82 degree, so I will keep my 21 for a while...
Anyway, quite happy with the 25V.
I will take it to a city walk tomorrow to do more test

Wow, you must've grabbed one of the first ones available. How many do they have in stock?

The MTF charts on Hassy's website looks very similar to the 21mm, but that one is wider. However, the XCD 30 chart still looks flatter - do you happen to have a 30mm to test?

o2mpx

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Was surprised to see the announcement this morning and almost ordered one, despite having the 21mm and 28p. But upon checking, the 21mm is 600g vs new 25mm at 592g? Plus the MTF's aren't overwhelmingly better, and FOV less wide for my landscapes, where the wider aperture also isn't critical with most being shot at F8; so GAS subsided and will stick with the 21mm; when light weight is needed, have the 28p at 245g for the bag; so will stick with the 2 lenses for now.

Really puzzled by HB's strategy. Good to make new lenses, but they should be materially improved over the legacy, or provide key motivation to switch. The 25v doesn't weigh materially lighter, nor perform much better, providing less FOV, albeit the programmable button is a good feature, not sure it's compelling enough for existing legacy lens owners; perhaps new owners is the audience if they can't buy the original 21mm.

pdprinter

If it is correct that Hasselblad is now using a different manufacturer than the original XCD lenses (Panasonic???) these original lenses will be out of production and replaced by new models (V and P) and to make that fact less obvious the recent lenses are are not the same but similar focal length than the old ones. Otherwise it does not make sense to have such close spacing of focal lengths.
V and P lenses are designed for different usage (compact vs large aperture) and also price points so similar focal lengths make somewhat sense I only wish they would focus more on longer focal lengths especially a macro replacement (P version would be great)

Orokaj

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SrMi

Quote from: o2mpx on May 08, 2024, 08:50:19 AMWas surprised to see the announcement this morning and almost ordered one, despite having the 21mm and 28p. But upon checking, the 21mm is 600g vs new 25mm at 592g? Plus the MTF's aren't overwhelmingly better, and FOV less wide for my landscapes, where the wider aperture also isn't critical with most being shot at F8; so GAS subsided and will stick with the 21mm; when light weight is needed, have the 28p at 245g for the bag; so will stick with the 2 lenses for now.

Really puzzled by HB's strategy. Good to make new lenses, but they should be materially improved over the legacy, or provide key motivation to switch. The 25v doesn't weigh materially lighter, nor perform much better, providing less FOV, albeit the programmable button is a good feature, not sure it's compelling enough for existing legacy lens owners; perhaps new owners is the audience if they can't buy the original 21mm.
Ted Forbes claims that 25v is optically better than 21 (distortion, sharpness, vignetting). I have not watched his full review, nor have I any experience with 25v yet:
https://youtu.be/hz-1Ea5959A?si=N7yk8FiSxcp-uPiK

Iceman1331

The new xcd 25 v lens is slightly lighter (1.3 %) than the older 21 mm. That said, I will keep my 21 mm instead of buying the new 25 v.

davidjiang

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Quote from: xoda on May 08, 2024, 07:09:49 AM
Quote from: davidjiang on May 08, 2024, 03:23:20 AMI just got the 25V in the DJI store in Shanghai, and made a quick comparison with my XCD just in the store, when wide open, the center and side tiny better than 21, corner similar or 21 tiny better. but after f4, it's a killer.
AF is faster, shutter sound like 90V, and can be 1/4000!
But as mahillsc mentioned, 21 is 92 degree vs 82 degree, so I will keep my 21 for a while...
Anyway, quite happy with the 25V.
I will take it to a city walk tomorrow to do more test

Wow, you must've grabbed one of the first ones available. How many do they have in stock?

The MTF charts on Hassy's website looks very similar to the 21mm, but that one is wider. However, the XCD 30 chart still looks flatter - do you happen to have a 30mm to test?

I got the first one of the Xintiandi Flag store😀, they run out of stock in about 30 mins (do not know exactly numbers, but definitely less than 20)

Unfortunately I do not have the 30mm...

Dafilman21

I would imagine the autofocus would also be better on the 25v

Faithwell

It is said that this len has moderate distortion which could be corrected. However I wonder whether this len could be use for portraits that need to be corrected for distortion & if it needs to, how would be final image be? Perfect portrait profiling or slightly distorted still? I asked because for Canon lenses anything from 30mm above is perfect for portrait.

Larsb

I'm really interesting in getting this lens.  Does anyone know when it will be available in Australia?  I checked all the usual AU websites today and there is no mention of it. Perhaps it will take a bit more time
Software Engineer and long time passionate Photographer

flash

Quote from: Larsb on May 08, 2024, 07:33:16 PMI'm really interesting in getting this lens.  Does anyone know when it will be available in Australia?  I checked all the usual AU websites today and there is no mention of it. Perhaps it will take a bit more time

Late next week in limited numbers, apparently. I paid for mine today and am in the first batch. Ordered directly from D1 by emailing them. I didn't see it on their website at all either. Was told arrival late next week by D1 Stores today.

Gordon

fcarucci

Available on BHPhoto now. Please, stop me.

Gsmith

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Quote from: fcarucci on May 09, 2024, 08:22:52 AMAvailable on BHPhoto now. Please, stop me.

Ordered the 25mm f/2.5V B&H yesterday and is to arrive FedEx tomorrow! I will make some non-scientific comparisons this weekend against my XCD lenses which include the discontinued 21MM f/4, 30mm f/3.5, 38mm f/2.5, and the 35-75mm f/3.5-4.5 which is on my X2D most of the time. Cheers

Larsb

Quote from: flash on May 08, 2024, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: Larsb on May 08, 2024, 07:33:16 PMI'm really interesting in getting this lens.  Does anyone know when it will be available in Australia?  I checked all the usual AU websites today and there is no mention of it. Perhaps it will take a bit more time

Late next week in limited numbers, apparently. I paid for mine today and am in the first batch. Ordered directly from D1 by emailing them. I didn't see it on their website at all either. Was told arrival late next week by D1 Stores today.

Gordon

Thanks Gordon - I put a deposit on the lens today (via CameraPro).  Hopefully mine will be part of the first batch too

thanks,

Lars
Software Engineer and long time passionate Photographer

Larsb

Quote from: Larsb on May 09, 2024, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: flash on May 08, 2024, 11:46:26 PM
Quote from: Larsb on May 08, 2024, 07:33:16 PMI'm really interesting in getting this lens.  Does anyone know when it will be available in Australia?  I checked all the usual AU websites today and there is no mention of it. Perhaps it will take a bit more time

Late next week in limited numbers, apparently. I paid for mine today and am in the first batch. Ordered directly from D1 by emailing them. I didn't see it on their website at all either. Was told arrival late next week by D1 Stores today.

Gordon

Thanks Gordon - I put a deposit on the lens today (via CameraPro).  Hopefully mine will be part of the first batch too

thanks,

Lars


Looks like I already missed out on the first batch, but CameraPro advises there will be another batch of lenses in mid to late May.
Software Engineer and long time passionate Photographer